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 Post subject: Back into the game, some questions
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 10:54 pm 
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Finally i have an epic gaming group again, back into the game i've found 2 things i dont underestand in the ork army lists:

1- why does a small stompa mob with extra stompas cost less than the big and 'uge mobs? I supose it has something to do with supastompa, still this is contrary to ork playstyle...

2- whats the point of having landa available in speed freaks? Spead freaks infantry mobs are mounted in battlewagons, and battlewafons cant be mounted on the landa...


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 Post subject: Re: Back into the game, some questions
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:15 am 
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1. Yes it should be fixed, it happened when the stompa upgrade cost was dropped but the big/uge formation costs were not.

2. Warbands come with trukks, but boyz are not the only units that can fit in a landa...in particular a kult of speed.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:52 am 
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I also find weird that nob warbikes can join a blitz brigade in a cult of speed army but cant join a full bike kult of speed


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 Post subject: Re: Back into the game, some questions
PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:55 am 
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That last one probably has to do with internal balance of the list, as that has been there since SG published the list and Kults are the best or second best formation in the list.

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2. Warbands come with trukks, but boyz are not the only units that can fit in a landa...in particular a kult of speed.


Or five Koptas, or some Warbike Outriders. But, can the Landa fit a speed freks' warband? I always thought that the Trukks could not be ditched when deploying the army and choosing the reserves, and only marines could because their Rhinos are optional.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:55 am 
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I am glad that someone else brought up the cost of the Stompa mobs..... Do we know what the points costs should be for the Stompa mob and regular, big and 'uge?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:21 pm 
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The change was just "core units goes from three to four Stompas". Tim didn't put it forward with the other changes in 2018 though, only the +50 point add-on got through.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:14 am 
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Dave wrote:
The change was just "core units goes from three to four Stompas". Tim didn't put it forward with the other changes in 2018 though, only the +50 point add-on got through.


So, the current, approved state is....

Normal - 4 Stompas - 225 points
Big - 8 Stompas - 400 points
'Uge - 12 Stompas - 575 points

...?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 11:24 am 
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CyberShadow wrote:
Dave wrote:
The change was just "core units goes from three to four Stompas". Tim didn't put it forward with the other changes in 2018 though, only the +50 point add-on got through.


So, the current, approved state is....

Normal - 4 Stompas - 225 points
Big - 8 Stompas - 400 points
'Uge - 12 Stompas - 575 points

...?
Thanks


From what i understood from Dave that change was not put up for voting, only the +50 points, leading to this strange result.

As it is right now the fastest way to solving it with less changes and impact to the list would be to remove BIG and 'UGE to leave it like it was originally and keep the +50.

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Current approved state is what's in the TP. Abetillo summed the situation up.

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