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Mega Gargant in OGBM

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:26 pm 
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From the poll thread:
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I would still like it if you could drop the armour rating of the Mega Gargant to 5+, so as to be able to drop the points cost a bit and make it fieldable ala what we did with the Emperor Titan... I'm still interested in using this list (Possibly re-named) for the AMTL vs. Orks supplement.

I like the way you and Chroma set up the Emperor class titans for the compendium. I'm definitely willing to including it like that.

As far as reducing its power, I'd be more inclined to drop the DC than drop its armor rating. Taking it to the same ratio as the other Imperial-Ork comparison would make it DC16 (down from DC18 as it is now) to the Emperor's DC12. Based on the current point estimate, that would take it down to ~1250, in line with the Emperor and in keeping with the comparable chassis being the same points.

Past that I'd be inclined to reduce assault values if needed. It doesn't have the extra FF attacks of the Emperor titans, but I could still see CC/FF of 4+. That would give it the same average hits as a Great Gargant, which is similar to the Emperor/Warlord relationship.


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 Post subject: Re: Mega Gargant in OGBM
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:35 pm 
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When working up stats for the Emperor Titans for the AMTL, we gave any weapon short of a battlecannon in size the chop, abstracting it away into the firefight value.

Currently the Mega Gargant's weapons are:


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Gaze of Mork 30 cm MW4+ Titan Killer
Skullkrusha Megakannon 75 cm 3 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
Krusha (base) Assault Weapon Extra Attacks (+1) Titan Killer (d6)
Gun Deck 60 cm 12 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
2x Big Gunz 45 cm AP5+/AT5+ Right Arc
2x Big Gunz 45 cm AP5+/AT5+ Left Arc
2x Krooz Missiles Unlimited MW3+ Titan Killer (d3), one shot, Fixed Forward
Deth Ray 60 cm MW3+ Titan Killer (d3), Fixed Forward
Supa Lifta Droppa 45cm MW4+ Titan Killer (d6)
Big Lobba 60 cm 2 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
Wyrdboy Tower 30 cm D6x AP5+/AT5+


What about going down to:

Quote:
Gaze of Mork 30 cm MW4+ Titan Killer
Soopagunz 60cm 17BP, Macroweapon, Fixed Forwards
2x Krooz Missiles Unlimited MW3+ Titan Killer (d3), one shot, Fixed Forward
Deth Ray 60 cm MW3+ Titan Killer (d3), Fixed Forward
Krusha (base) Assault Weapon Extra Attacks (+1) Titan Killer (d6)
Supa Lifta Droppa 45cm MW4+ Titan Killer (d6)



"Lost" weapons would be:

Skullkrusha Megakannon 75 cm 3 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
Gun Deck 60 cm 12 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
Big Lobba 60 cm 2 BP Macroweapon, Fixed Forward
(All subsumed into one "soopagunz" category)

Wyrdboy Tower 30 cm D6x AP5+/AT5+
2x Big Gunz 45 cm AP5+/AT5+ Left Arc
2x Big Gunz 45 cm AP5+/AT5+ Right Arc
(Subsumed into the Firefight value)


Also, why is the "Supa Lifter Droppa" not as good as a standard Lifta Droppa on a Great Gargant?

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 Post subject: Re: Mega Gargant in OGBM
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:16 pm 
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The big guns have an interplay with the AA upgrade they can get E&C.


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 Post subject: Re: Mega Gargant in OGBM
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:48 pm 
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E&C: I'm inclined to change the Wyrdboy tower to match up with the Ferals. It's a fun part of the model. I would consider dropping the Big Gunz.

TRC: The Mega isn't eligible for mek upgrades at the moment.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:54 pm 
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Ferals get an AA attack from the Wyrdboy, right?
Sounds cool to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Mega Gargant in OGBM
PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:43 am 
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man there be some haters on the big titans. any update on this? i run the Mega G in my bigmob when i play 5000 point games.


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