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Author:  Angor [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  OGBM list help
Hello I was wondering if you guys could help me construct a Gargant list. I have enough trouble with Ork lists as it is seeing as every fomation can basically take any units it likes. The gargant list is one step more confusing as I have no idea what kind of gargants I should be including and how to equip them?


I have a huge surplus of generic ork units, I just need to convert up some Titans so the list can be pretty flexable. What are popular gargant builds or any highly rated units?




THankyou
Author:  Man of kent [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Drop Roks Tom, take the Drop Roks!!!!

Is this a 4 or a 3k list?

Still up for Thursday?
R>
Author:  Angor [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Not this Thursday but "Thursday week" as my dad would say.

I have a great gargant sat in my bits box so I guess im aiming for a 4k list. Ideally I would make a 3k list then bolt him on.



Still need help with weapon configurations
Author:  Man of kent [ Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Cool, will pen you in for next week mate.
Let me read the gargant list and I'll give you any tips or suggestions I come up with.
R>

ADDITIONAL TIPS EDIT: you can max out on Supa Stompa's which seems a good idea...lots of cheap shielded war engines a bit like imperial warhounds.
ONly problem is they're not as fast and don't regenerate shields but a few of them moving up the field together would kick out a HELL of a lot of BP MW shots!
Author:  MikeT [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Yah, the singleton supa stompas stood out at me as well. The usual argument for their cheap cost is that you need to take a stompa mob to put them in, adding to their cost, but that doesn't apply here. Also, remember you can add a big mek to each for 50 points which can, among other things, add 5cm to it's move. Sweet.
Author:  Angor [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Okay how about...


Gargant 600 (Which Guns to take?)

Custom Gargant 425 (Which Guns to take?)

Krawler Gargant 475 (Which Guns to take?)


Super Stompa (BP version) 275 pts

Super Stompa (BP version) 275pts

Big loota Warband 250pts

Fight Bombers 150

Landa 200 (Do you need a space Craft to have this?)

Sappy Mob 210
Extra Dred
2 Extra Kans
(for the Landa)

2860pts

9 activations

Leaves me some points for some upgrades on gargants or units.
Author:  nealhunt [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
A lot of lists take one Great Gargant for the Supreme Commander. It's the only way to have one.

Please post any game results.
Author:  Man of kent [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Remember that Thursday next week is 4k tom!
Author:  MikeT [ Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Also, for the lonesome supa stompas, I'd recommend 2 x soopa gun, 1 x mega choppa. The firepower drop from 6-4 BP is minimal (1 rather than 2 auto blastmarks), you get a AP5+/AT5+ shot to make up for it, and the MW CC attack discourages being gang banged by terminators and whatnot.
Author:  OracleBoyd [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
I've been looking at possibly starting a Gargant list as well.

I'm just returning to Epic after a long absence and I don't have much experience either playing or playing against Titans/Gargants as the group I used to play with didn't have anyone playing them. Anyway I've been theorizing a lot but don't see a lot of lists here to get ideas from.

I was comparing Gargants and Supa Stompas, and it seems like it would be much better to have 2 upgraded Supas than 1 upgraded Gargant at the same price. You basically have double the number of shots/weapons and roughly the same DC and fields for the loss of a point of FF/CC and the possible supazzap.

I've been thinking of something like:

Great Gargant + Mek
6 Supastompas + Mek
4 FBs

Or swapping 2 Supastompas for 2 units of Stompas and another unit of planes. Or getting away from the all Mek list, dropping a Supastompa to upgrade one of the others to a Crawler (and something to put in it). And on that note, what's a good loadout for a Krawla? Snappas or Lootas?
Author:  nealhunt [ Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
A couple quick notes...

First, the list has a core/support structure and only Gargants are core. Supastompas are support.

Second, it's not up in the latest version, but since you're planning a list, the number of support formations per gargant is going to drop to 2. The most Supastompas you can have is 2 per "real" gargant.


In terms of on-board effectiveness, the big difference between a big WE and two smaller WEs with half the size is durability. A big WE is much harder to break/suppress. Also, the big WE always fights with all its CC/FF while smaller WEs only have half that. 8 attacks at 3+ in every assault is vastly better than 4 attacks at 4+. The smaller ones are much easier to pick off.
Author:  OracleBoyd [ Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: OGBM list help
Heh,

I was forgetting about the support limits entirely!

I started out with the idea of using mostly Gargants/Great Gargants and just kinda got sidetracked by the Supastompas. I had thought about them being individually easier to break, but if you break one, the other is still just fine...

So GG, KG, 4 Supastompas would still not work with the drop to 2 per activation as I wouldn't have room for the troops to put in the Krawla. That's probably good, as a GARGANT list should prolly have more than 1 or 2 Gargants. ;)
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