I'd been playing around but realised you're always going to have a lopsided activation count and you may as well embrace the big hitters...

ok: 2000pts

Kustom Gargant = 425pts
Kustom Gargant = 425pts
Supa Stomper + 2 Grotnaughts + Mek(+1DC on Supa)= 425
Loota Warband -> 6boyz, 2Grotz + Battlefortress =275
Air Force -> 3Fighta + 6 Big Bommaz = 450

yup, having the BTS as the air force. I've not seen anyone else do it, but there might be a reason for it...


3000pts:

Great Gargant = 800 (Supreme commander, yay)
Big Krawler + 12 Killa Kans = 825 (BTS)
Kustom Gargant = 425pts
Supa Stomper + 2 Grotnaughts + Mek(+1DC on Supa)= 425
Air Force -> 3Fighta + 6 Big Bommaz = 450 (these may be split into 3 formations of fightas)

The big krawler should be almost impossible to break. (or stop) Lousy activation count though.

being able to place between 13 and 16 BP a turn as well as all all the other shooting sounds like great fun.

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With only four activations "on the ground", you might have a tough time getting objectives and you're going to be heavily out-activated...

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I'm afraid any off board formations don't count towards any of the goals, so flyer's couldn't count as BTS.

4.3 Spacecraft
Q: Do Spacecraft count for the Break
Their Spirit goal if they are the most
expensive formation in an army?
A: No. Spacecraft (or any off-board units
or formations) do not count towards goals.

aw nuts

oh well, back to the drawing board.

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With OGBM you're typically going to be a little low on the activation count, just like playing AMTL. With a 3000 point AMTl army, I usually have 6 to 8 activiations. The downside is  you will usually be out-activated and, as Chroma siad, you might have difficulty grabbing objectives. On the upside, Gargants and Titans can take a beating and still dish out as much firepower at the end of the game as they did in the beginning and they're tough BTS objectives.

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well, I concluded I could either have 6-8 activations where 4 of them are so small as to shatter if looked at (and with limited nobz those formations ain't coming back) or have 5 activations all capable of delivering and taking a beating.

meh, i need to get a few games under my belt to learn this a wee bit better.

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"Off board" means anything off the table that *hasn't* been destroyed, so aircraft, spacecraft, teleporters in reserve, none count towards BTS.

Necrons have a special rule where any of their reserves "count as" destroyed if not on the board.

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yes, but with that airforce your opponent will lose one activation each turn

Is there a consensus as to what the best big mek upgrade is to take?

I am also curious as to why you would not take a bigmek upgrade on as many units as possible. It seems like a pretty important upgrade all things considering.

(Still dinkering around with lists myself)

Personally, I tend to go for upgrading a Big Gun to a Soopa or Zzap, or for the FF upgrade.

I am also curious as to why you would not take a bigmek upgrade on as many units as possible. It seems like a pretty important upgrade all things considering.

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