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Ork lists in the Epic: Clash of Titans supplement
Evil and Chaos
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:39 am 
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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
So after so more thinking... Why isn't the Grotnought in the Grot list?

The Mega Dreads make a pretty close proxy, no?

Also, IIRC Nealhunt isn't even sure if he wants to keep the Grotnought in the Gargant list.

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and also why aren't normal Grots in it too???

Because differentiating the different units would become much harder. Better to have two broad types.

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why not a Grot skimmer thing while were at it. Like a Grotkopta! Eh? [/color]

Maybe. I'm trying to shy away from inventing too many units here.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:43 am 
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Spectrar Ghost wrote:
What E&C has done is take standard Grot type, and split it into two, that average back to the original type. It's darn clever, IMO.

No I saw. Thought the 7+ was awesome! But why not keep regular Grots (W/ Expandable) so fill part of it. They can be the dumber Grots and I think it would give more Grot flavor to the list.

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Yeah, why not Grotnoughts?

2nd (Can I 2nd something that some 2nd on me? :o ) err I 3rd it then. ;) ::)

Maybe it was an oversight? Like the Grot Bombs?
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The other types have expendable too.

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Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
So after so more thinking... Why isn't the Grotnought in the Grot list?

Evil and Chaos wrote:
The Mega Dreads make a pretty close proxy, no?

Also, IIRC Nealhunt isn't even sure if he wants to keep the Grotnought in the Gargant list.

Fair enough. I figured it had to do with the Mega Dread and if Neal drops it then ok.

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and also why aren't normal Grots in it too???

Evil and Chaos wrote:
Because differentiating the different units would become much harder. Better to have two broad types.

Meh. I guess so. But something to consider later on maybe?

Angel_of_Caliban wrote:
why not a Grot skimmer thing while were at it. Like a Grotkopta! Eh?

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Maybe. I'm trying to shy away from inventing too many units here.

Let's be honest here, you know there are Grots that have jacked DethKoptas and WarKoptas. ::) I think it could be done reasonable. ( I do not have a Grot and DethKopta Fetish btw, in case someone was wondering ;) )
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Spectrar Ghost wrote:
The other types have expendable too.

Oh they do?!? Well in that case then just ignore me folks.....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:56 am 
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Ooh! Ooh! Who am I?

They made them! The Blue Werewolf made them! My Grot Tanks. My... precious.

Move along, nothing to see here.

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I think Deth Koptas could be used, with talk of them having Grot crews in this list.

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
I think Deth Koptas could be used, with talk of them having Grot crews in this list.

I heart you......Too much? Maybe.... ::)

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Ooh! Ooh! Who am I?

They made them! The Blue Werewolf made them! My Grot Tanks. My... precious.

Move along, nothing to see here.

I have no idea ;) Oh wait! I know! Its Dobbsy! :D


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Evil and Chaos wrote:
The Mega Dreads make a pretty close proxy, no?

Im all for proxies, but wouldn't it make more sense to proxy mega dreads for grotnaugths in a grot list than the other way around? seems more characterful and people can still use the shiny mega dread minis if they want to (unless grotnaughts get removed from OGBM as well, in which case it's all good)

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unless grotnaughts get removed from OGBM as well, in which case it's all good

Pretty much this.

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KivArn wrote:
frogbear wrote:
Is the mega warkopter going to use the VTOL (or whatever rules that were devised) to represent the hovering rather than just skimmer?


There's the tau support craft rule? (might also be in either necrons or dark eldar)


Yes that is the one - however it is Support Craft as the special rule. I took the Mega Warkopter and added it to the Chaos Squats with that rule in place of skimmer as well.

E&C, was the Support Craft rule a consideration for the Mega Warkopter in this list?

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E&C, was the Support Craft rule a consideration for the Mega Warkopter in this list?

I don't think so. However it's Nealhunt's list so may he did think about it then discard it.

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I hate support craft.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:22 am 
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I'm so upset. I've only got Grots left for about 19 assorted stands at 3 per stand. I suspect Sun Tzork is not a good tourney list, but it is full of win, and I want to play it. Hmm... must look at various options. Grots are in such high demand in general though.

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perhaps someone blue will make grots available seperately

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