The Storm Eagle assault transport was used in larger numbers by the Traitor Legions and many survived the Horus Heresy. Many are suppose to still be around, maintained by the Wordbearers and the Sons of Hurus /Black Legion in particulkar.

I was wondering if there were plans in some of the Chaos Marine lists to add this assault War Engine/ bomber transport to the Chaos Legion lists. It is so large that it would likely only be included in the War engines, aircraft and space craft section (max 1/3 points). The Thunderhawk gunship carries 4 stands, has 2DC, while the Lexicum and Wikia pages mention that the Storm Eagle carried 10 stands (50 troops), had thicker reinforced armour, void shields, 4 banks of paired lasers in turrets, 3 pairs of Heavy Bolters, and 6 one shot AA/AT missiles.

I am sure stats can be worked out, and a suitable points cost where you might only buy one of these per list.

I was thinking of 2 shields (similar to imperial titan shields) with 3 or 4DC. It would have a 4+ RA save with the ability to transport 5 dreadnoughts or 10 infantry stands, or 5 Terminator stands, or a mix of these.

As to weapons it should be as per the wikia - 4 paired lascannon range 30cm (reduced for aircraft) 4 x AT4+/ AA 5+, backed up by 3 paired Heavy Bolters range 15cm 3 x AP3+, and 6 one shot range 75cm AT4+ / AA 4+.

Cost wise, something like 350 or 400 points sounds fair. In a 3000 point game, you are more than likely to get only 1 of these and back it up with 2 squadrons of aircraft (fighters or fighter bombers). I would probably choose that rather than get only 2 of them, and no other supporting aircraft.

The picture of them looks like a slightly larger Thunderhawk gunship with 4 engines.

Does this sound like something list developers would likely update or add to their developmental lists, or even current lists?

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Aren't SE already in the HH lists??

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As Mordoten points out, there's no need to develop stats as they exist in lists in two continuums, HH and NetEA already. The HH and the NetEA lists differed on the classification due to HH list primarchs being WE instead of characters but really a minor thing despite having them first in when Raptors and Hawk Lords as I pulled them out of NetEA dev so they're dead ends, evolutionarily speaking. So you're pretty kosher there to use HH as is.

The SE is much smaller transport than the TBrick though. It carries about half the troops (so generally would need to be in a flight of 2 to be viable i suspect). Point being you got it backwards; It's not a bigger thawk in neither size nor tactics and certainly doesn't need 4DC nor shields or other mishigas.
[edit:] when you said 4 engines it planted a seed in my brain that just came to fruition. Are you talking about the Stormbird instead? That's a totally different deal whatsoever

As to where in Chaos it fits in would likely be Red Corsairs and/or Emperors Children as air assault is kinda their theme. But condsidering how they're built around thunderhawks I suspect the developers wouldn't be keen to upset the applecart to add them as they're not bringing much to the list that's not already covered, but I can't state that categorically to be the case. Might be worth asking them about it?
[edit:] The World Eaters list has a ton of trouble around getting 'zerkers and other CC only troops across the board. It may be of utility there but I don't think it's even actively being developed and certainly been years since anyone tested it...

Personally I'd simply use them with opponent's permission or champion a new themed list to Steve and explain the hole and what it brings different to the tournament lists (which is why fan lists exist also, because tournament play is stricter than just friends for Balance)

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By the description I was thinking storm bird, certain that is the craft that is in most of the HH books and contrasted by the protagonists against the 'newer, inferior' thunderhawk

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yeah i'm pretty sure now he's switched the names (terrible that they are, very understandable)
THIS is the Storm Eagle


THIS is the Storm Bird


And as everyone should know, this is the superior form it should have taken

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Sorry I meant the Stormbird. The super large aircraft lander that was suppose to be larger than the Thunderhawk gunship. It carried way more than the Thunderhawk, but the cost of maintaining it and the extra loss of personnel killed while being transported meant it began to be used less.

Please refer to my post to mean StormBird. I suppose here are stats for it in the HH version of Epic Armageddon. Are there plans to allow them to be included in Chaos 40K Lists in the War Engine/Aircraft/Spacecraft section? I would love to field one of them.

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Wouldn't it be close enough to hand wave it as a Landing Craft from the Codex list?

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Edit - sorry didn't realise you were after a chaos flier

The BL list is considered an approved and "finished" list for a couple of years now.
Why on earth would they include a new unit that gives them access to air assaults?? The BL list is not an air assault list (you can do dreadclaw dropp assaults). Game balance must come first.

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Red corsairs are recently turned traitors and are less likely to have access to heresy relics

There is nothing stopping you fielding a stormbird if you have the model and an opponent who is happy letting you use it, you could even proxy one for a thunderhawk in the RC/EC lists given the vast range in sizes of the 4 different thunderhawk models I'm sure it wouldn't matter overmuch

I don't see the existing approved lists needing to be retrofitted with all the new shiny models.

'Counts as' is usually enough to use any model in a formal game and ts completely up to you and your opponent in a more friendly game....

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I am thinking of say Word Bearers or World Eaters. Word Bearers because they traditionally used a lot of them, and they tend to rely on massed infantry, backed up by daemonic war engines, Daemons and then and their own troops who they tend to make sure survive as much as possible - hence the air assault. World Eaters, would use them because they are an assault army, and dropping right into the enemies lap and assaulting them s just what they do best.

Night Lords would also use this as they love the terror of arriving in a large assault transport and scaring the enemy as their raptors drop from the skies. I can just see them using this aircraft.

I know game balance is important, however the points cost of it makes it restrictive already, and you would not want to invest in too many points worth of troops sitting in it, just in case it gets blown up. I just want to field one because they are thematic and look cool.

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As I said, if your opponent doesnt mind, go for it, but I won't be putting it in the Red Corsairs list at this late stage for a variety of reasons, and I don't expect it will turn up in any approved chaos lists either...

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Yeah the Word Bearers are about the only force still known to have decent access to them in 40k still so Deb, from a fluff point they'd be appropriate. There's no WB list under active dev any more and what was kicked around was based on marines and demons. I'm not sure Chaos needs a 3rd air assault list vs finishing up some other themes instead (Demon world, siege, I'd love to see the Bloody Hand come back, etc)

Point above that they're basically a Marine Lander is apt (and which is likely the genesis of the unit for HH-not the first unit mined from Epic) so that gives some guidance there for friendly play.

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BTW Kyuss, you're somewhat cutting your work on the Red Corsairs list short. It also covers the whole Nomad-Predation force theme that covers the Night Lords rather well so not just new traitors

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