Great that there is some discussion. I personally see this lists development as an open source project. But unfortunately there is very little discusion that may be due to the fact that there are very little 1kSons player or simply not the loudest ones. So I can only work with the little what happens here. And if no one complains, everyone is happy, are they not? I also expect the Steve54 and the committee to tell me what they want to have changed once this list goes live.
As I wrote in my first post already, I would like to help an almost finished list come across the bar. If I would develop a list form scratch I would do it like captPiett has done it with the Emperor's Children. And call it Sons of the Cyclops. A Chaos Cult marine list is not an easy build after all.
I’ve read a lot in the old Thousand Sons threats to make an opinion about an list development as old as this list. (E.g. Dreadclaws had been in the list since she was published in Fanatic Magazine 56. I haven’t seen a complain about it until now.)
True your example list looks very strong at first, but has little Titan killer/MW and as soon they landed they are very slow. The Crossfire then reduces them to 6 Stand Martens without weapons. Your necrons should have no problem with them.
In my opinion there are combinations in many lists, which are very one-sided but are possible. For example Pure Space Marine Terminators lists. But if the list is so designed that such things are no longer possible, much versatility will be lost.
Ginger wrote:
[*]The Sorcerer character added to a TS unit adds a MW EA, which is considerably more powerfull than the Cabal of Sorcerers in E:A.[/list]
The difference is:
The Uk Cabal of Sorcerers is Inf and has Commander, Daemonic Pact, Invulnerable Save, Leader
The Thousand Sons Sorcerer is CH and has the MW FF attack and Leader and Commander.
The build in MW FF makes it up for the Daemonic pact even if they Thousand Sons Sorcerer have the better save, don’t you thing?
Ginger wrote:
Personally I think TS 'marines' with 4+RA is OTT anyway, though it was adopted because the original list arrived at a time when people were unwilling to consider other options (5+RA for example). The argument is that their lack of firepower redresses this, though I suggest that they ought to have some limited firepower (being a 'fluffyphobe' I cannot recite chapter and verse as to where this was the case).
That is sadly not my choice to make, because the Stats are fixed in the BL list. The fluff is going in the drain right now, with the release of Wrath of Magnus.
Keep it coming guys.
Ole