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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:33 am 
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Hi kyussinchains,

Have game line up for tomorrow night..Red Corsairs Vs Steel legion..

PFE will do the report as always.. ;D ;D

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:39 am 
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brilliant! If I can get six games in over the summer I expect we'll be getting in a good position to push for approval :)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 2:45 pm 
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A couple of minor queries:

Obliterators are 85 points/unit. Any thoughts on lowering them to 75 as in the Black Legion list?

Similarly, it would be nice to see Chosen as a unit in their own right, rather than Chaos Space Marines with the Scout ability added. Makes no mechanical difference in-game, but is a neater way to represent them in the list.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:02 pm 
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the points is a typo, they should match the BL list

I'll make chosen a distinct unit type in the next revision, just for you ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Red Corsairs v3.4
PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:29 pm 
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Yay! I'm special!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:06 am 
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kyussinchains wrote:
if you can manage four games that would be great, any more would be even better

basically just try and break the list, there were concerns over thunderhawks+berzerkers, chosen in deathwind pods with pacts may potentially be very nasty

it's mostly around the air transports and drop pods so I'd like to see them heavily tested

as far as I can tell there isn't anything particularly broken, but all attempts to do so are welcomed :)

many thanks for offering to help, much appreciated!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:53 pm 
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Red Corsairs (3.4) and Steel Legion(NetEA Army Compendium v2014)

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having a think last night about the list and realised that the stats for the slaanesh 'daemon knights' don't match any of the stats from the EC list

what are people's thoughts on this?

I see three options:

1) keep it as a distinct version only available to the Red Corsairs
2) drop in the war engine version (and if so, which version(s)?)
3) replace 'daemon knights' with Hell Striders?

please let me know your thoughts and I'll amend accordingly :)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:25 am 
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also another thing that occured to me, the list currently has this build available to it:

Terminators - warlord
Terminators - daemon prince, chaos champion (BTS)
Terminators
Terminators
Terminators
Terminators
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk

3000 dead on..... I'd appreciate a few stress tests of such a build if people have the models!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:52 am 
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if it's a problem just lob Thawk into WE/air allowance, not much pressure on RC to max that out normally

hm though even then you could take 5 thawk

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:34 am 
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kyussinchains wrote:
having a think last night about the list and realised that the stats for the slaanesh 'daemon knights' don't match any of the stats from the EC list

what are people's thoughts on this?

I see three options:

1) keep it as a distinct version only available to the Red Corsairs
2) drop in the war engine version (and if so, which version(s)?)
3) replace 'daemon knights' with Hell Striders?

please let me know your thoughts and I'll amend accordingly :)


I vote option 1. I enjoy both lists and both versions of knights immensely just the way they are.

As for full termie list I second moving thunderhawks to WE allowance to at least reduce potential spam.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:25 pm 
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kyussinchains wrote:
having a think last night about the list and realised that the stats for the slaanesh 'daemon knights' don't match any of the stats from the EC list

what are people's thoughts on this?

I see three options:

1) keep it as a distinct version only available to the Red Corsairs
2) drop in the war engine version (and if so, which version(s)?)
3) replace 'daemon knights' with Hell Striders?

please let me know your thoughts and I'll amend accordingly :)

FWIW, the Daemon Knights in the RC list are exactly the same as the ones in the Lost & Damned Stigmatus Coven list. So here it's the EC list that is deviating from what has already been established.

What I'm not sure of is why Silver Towers are so much cheaper here than in either the Stigmatus Coven or Thousand Sons lists.

Mostly for the sake of being pedantic, the list as currently written doesn't have a WE allowance. It does have an aircraft section that is presumably separate from the rest of the list, but no information is given as to how much of the army's points value may be spent on aircraft. There's no compelling reason you couldn't reduce the aircraft allowance to less than 1/3 of the army if you really needed to limit the availability of Thunderhawks.

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I'll see about a bit of an organisational re-jig, the air assets should have a 1/3 limit as usual

Also considering dropping terminators into the support choices to retain the air-heavy options while reducing potential terminator spam....

Thoughts?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 2:39 am 
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kyussinchains wrote:
I'll see about a bit of an organisational re-jig, the air assets should have a 1/3 limit as usual

Also considering dropping terminators into the support choices to retain the air-heavy options while reducing potential terminator spam....

Thoughts?


I don't see any issues with those ideas.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:50 am 
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kyussinchains wrote:
also another thing that occured to me, the list currently has this build available to it:

Terminators - warlord
Terminators - daemon prince, chaos champion (BTS)
Terminators
Terminators
Terminators
Terminators
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk

3000 dead on..... I'd appreciate a few stress tests of such a build if people have the models!

Perhaps against an approved list like Codex Astartes.
You know, a nice balanced army like this:
Incompertus, 3000 POINTS
Codex Astartes (NetEA Tournament Pack 2014)
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TERMINATOR [450]
4 Terminators, Supreme Commander

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR [400]
4 Terminators, Chaplain

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR [400]
4 Terminators, Chaplain

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR [400]
4 Terminators, Chaplain

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR [350]
4 Terminators

THUNDERHAWK [200]

:D

I like the Corsairs list Kyuss, and can't wait to give it a run.

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