Read it however you like.....

We've had the circular discussions and comparisons to the vampire which does perfectly well as a DC2 air transport without ATSKNF....

edit: I'm not trying to chuck a spanner in the works here, I just think fearless thunderhawks are like bandaging a wound that isn't there, and it makes them better than a codex thawk in several, more 'gamey' regards (the blast marker issue, and also being able to drop them on the deck to engage and contest TSNP without fear of being destroyed if broken within 15cm of a couple of enemy stands is a potential game winner)

I had missed the price increase on the preds, that's a good change

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quick batrep

EC list

Retinue - pact, warlord, rhinos, stalker
Retinue - pact, rhinos, stalker
Retinue - pact, 4 noise marines, dreadclaws
Chosen - pact, rhinos
Terminators - pact
Terminators - pact
Armoured company (4 predators)
Thunderhawk
Thunderhawk
Knights (4 hell scourge)
Spaceship

BL list

Retinue - pact, obliterator, warlord
Retinue - pact, rhinos
Retinue - pact, rhinos
Chosen - pact, rhinos
Chosen - pact, dreadclaws
Havoks - pact
Terminators - pact, extra stand
Decimator
Feral Titan
Hellblades
Spaceship

Turn 1

EC won strategy, knights doubled and hit garrisoned chosen, killing a couple of stands


EC retain with spaceship, barrage hits garrisoned chosen, breaking them, pinpoint blows up decimator, podding retinue lands near the feral, retains, summons 3 daemons and breaks it


BL then engage podding retinue, reducing to a stand of noise marines, hellblades CAP, BL retinue doubles down the extreme flank and blast markers EC chosen on blitz, thunderhawk termies wipe out havoks for no losses, EC retinue advances, and places a blast marker, then thunderhawk termies engage the retinue, wiping it out


Turn 2

BL termies teleport in behind knights taking 1BM, EC win strategy, knights clip terminators and kill a single stand, taking a point of damage in return, knights win rolloff, hacking down all 4 remaining terminator stands


Retinue engages EC predators intermingling EC BTS, the preds score 4 hits and the EC win the combat, losing 3 preds, the lone pred runs away


single noise marine sorcerer summons 5 daemons and engages and breaks BL BTS


Warphound fails to activate, marshalls, is then broken by terminators, chosen and thunderhawk, it fails to rally

Turn 3

Knights advance and mow down several stands of BL BTS, Terminators engage and destroy the remainder, capturing T&H in the process, Retinue marches to capture blitz, EC take it turn 3, 3-0

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Slowly building a EC army but have yet to playtest so my comments do not carry a huge amount of weight yet. But after reading the thread I'm concerned with two things.

1. Fearless thunderhawks might make them too good. They are obviously really nasty even without it.

2. Theres way to few Noise marines in the lists to feel like emperors children. I suspect they might very well be too expensive...

Good news!

EC 4.xx is approved!!!

Thank you to all the playtesters. Your help was invaluable and essential. Dave is working on getting the list into the Tournament Pack and we're scrubbing the document for errors. Stand by for a new thread and list pdf.

Before any skivvies are twisted or conniption-fits had, the list was not approved "as-is". Chaos thunderhawks have dropped fearless, Hell Scourges have been increased in price to account for their general awesomeness, and preds/LRs have gotten a bump as well. An exhaustive list of the changes will be in the new thread.

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Cool news. Good to see another option for you traitors!

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Good work shepherding the list CaptPiett

looking forward to seeing the final document and taking it out for a run

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Great news and coagulation's on getting it approved..

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The list is now live:

http://tp.net-armageddon.org/

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Nicely done Matt, and to everyone who helped. Kudos on bringing the list to fruition.

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Congratulations!

...and now there's another army I love that needs minis...

Great news! Congrats on fine work! Good call for dropping Fearless from the Thunderhawk!!

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