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Building (Slaanesh) Black Legion

 Post subject: Building (Slaanesh) Black Legion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:02 am 
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Now with EC at hold for a while (want to see where it is going), here is my take on Black Legion (Slaanesh themed), using latest proposed NetEA changes:


Painlord (Banelord)     800
Retinue
   + Rhinos (4)        315
Retinue
   + Daemon Prince (SC, wings)
   + Rhinos (4)        365
Possessed (Raptors) (4) 160
Chosen (4)
   + 2 Obliterators
   + Dreadclaws        460  x2
Legionnaires (Forlorn Hope)
   + Dreadclaws        145  x2
Devastation cruiser     150
                Total: 3000

Unfortunately only 8+1 activations. All lords are Chaos Sorcerors.

Painlord will sit on objective and soften up enemy for Big Drop.
Mobile retinues and raptors will support assaults.
I would like to have cult marines, dreadnaughts, land-based obliterators and daemons but there is only limited thing what you can do with 3000 to keep some sensible number of activations.

(NetEA net change: -60 pts)

To get it fully painted, need to finish Painlord, scratch build 4 Obliterators and finish some Possessed (raptors)

The very first version had bikes instead of Raptors (as Slaanesh steed riders), no Daemon Prince and one Obliterator less, but I decided that I want that Daemon Prince although worse than earlier but still more durable SC than simple Chaos Warlord and I have that nice SM fig for him (was it Fulgrim the name...?)

Will comment here how my project continues. Hopefully without green border anymore by then... =]


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:10 am 
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What is the thinking behind drop podding the Chosen formation? Paying to loose their teleport ability doesn't make sense to me.


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 Post subject: Building (Slaanesh) Black Legion
PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:22 am 
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Quote: (Mephiston @ 08 Jul. 2008, 12:10 )

What is the thinking behind drop podding the Chosen formation? Paying to loose their teleport ability doesn't make sense to me.

You sacrifice their late tactical deployment and in exchange get:
 - no BM for arriving
 - most possibly BM (and casualties) to enemy
 - more probably first activation (depends of the enemy)

So it is a strategical choice. The first two usually grant +2 to +4 advantage in engagement resolution.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 11:18 am 
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Interesting list, I can't wait to hear how they get on.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:24 pm 
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So, after some games with this drop list and its evolution versions, the final version I used in "Syksyn Säveleet" tournament was like this:

Devastation          150
Banelord             800
Chosen (7) + Obliterator 540
Chosen (4)             260
Retinue + Daemon Prince (SC) +
 Obliterator + Defiler  485
Retinue + Dreadclaws   315
Forlorn Hope + Rhinos  145
Forlorn Hope + Rhinos  145
Raptors (4)            160

(picture upcoming)

The strategy was to keep blitz with Defiler boosted retinue using sustained fire to do pin-point blast/barraging. Banelord would be closeby and 1-2 objectives would be set so that Banelord could overwatch them so that no enemy unit can contest/keep them without falling to direct line of sight to Banelord. Drop retinue would be used to lure enemy from backline and/or contest objective set aside, as would smaller Chosen. The bigger Chosen would do the main punch either taking the enemy blitz or other similar feat.

(this was some things I had learned from previous versions of the list: while dropping scouts are nice, 4 units break far too easily and thus only useful against certain armies or those who cannot perform good drop defense. Similarily I switched to teleporting Chosen as against good drop defense the original idea did not work well. For the Banelord keeping the blitz: it was usually too tempting to do some advancing with it to bear enemy within its (true) 60cm kill-range, so better to keep blitz with something else...)

I guess I will post the tournament results to EA battle reports some day...
or maybe here as it will just be a short listing of opponents, highlights of the games etc.


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