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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:43 pm 
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Quote: (Hena @ Nov. 14 2009, 00:19 )

About Blight Drones. I've been comparing the unit to the rest and have to wonder about few things.

1. Speed. Shouldn't it be a bit slower than normal scout skimmer as it doesn't have scout and it's AV. So speed of 25 or 30 should be fine.
2. CC and FF. What's the deal with CC4+ and FF6+? Wouldn't 5+, 5+ be better?
3. Weapons. Twin Reaper check. But instead of Maw Cannon, I'd slap Vomit Cannon on it as that has stats already (1 pip worse to-hit but IC so it's similar effectiveness even). Better to use existing weapons than to make new ones.

Ps. what weapons there are on Plague Reaper?

1. Maybe. But Falcons are Fast SKimmers too and Armoured Vehicles and have Speed 35cm. So far all Skimmers are Speed 35cm (exception are the Tau).
2. Actually it's CC6+ and FF4+
3. No Twin Reaper. It's an misconception as Reaper Autocannons are ALLWAYS twin-linked. So the Blight Drone has "only" a Reaper Autocannon. The Maw Cannonis stated that it can use the Phlegm or Vomit profile. So i merged the two profiles into one.

The current stats for the Blight Drone are:

Blight Drone
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 35cm 5+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Vomit Cannon 30cm AP3+/AT5+ Ignore Cover
Reaper Autocannon 30cm AP4+/AT6+ -

Notes: Fearless, Invulnerable Save, Skimmer.

The Plague Reaper has the same weapons as a Baneblade expcept that it exchanges the Baneblade Battlecannon and the co-axial Autocannon for a Pus Cannon which has the exact same stats as an Inferno Gun.




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:41 pm 
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Ever tried to catch a fly? Those things are very fast and agile.  :laugh:  And BLight Drones are considerably smaller than Tau tanks. The speed of a Rhino would be my minimum proposal (30cm).

About the Maw Cannon.
The Phlegm profil is the same as an Inferno Cannon/Flamestorm Cannon but with worser Armpourpiercing (against Infantry) value. This justifies AP3+
The Vomit profile is the same as a Battle Cannon but without the enhanced armour piercing capability (against Vehicles) because the Vomit isn't Ordnance. This justifies AT5+.




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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:03 pm 
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I'd say that a speed reduction would probably be a good idea on the drones. They may be that fast in 40k but I'd suggest that the relative speed of 'fast' unit isn't as game important as in epic which is all about movement.

Also in list terms a 35cm speed unit removes the weakness of the DG - lack of speed, which balances out their toughness. Blight drones would definitely be a 'must-have' pick for the DG with that speed - soak up the enemy attacks with tough infantry and then objective grab with them in t3.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:08 pm 
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Quote: (BlackLegion @ Nov. 14 2009, 16:43 )

1. Maybe. But Falcons are Fast SKimmers too and Armoured Vehicles and have Speed 35cm. So far all Skimmers are Speed 35cm (exception are the Tau).

Well and the other units like Eldar SHT's and similar :)

The consideration of 30 and 25 should be purely based on assault. Do you want it to counter-charge 10cm or not?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:17 pm 
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If there will be ever a fast unit in a Death Guard/Nurgle army then it will be Blight Drones.

From Vraks 3:
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The Blight Drones whereoften encountered inclusters of swarms, acting muchin the manner of carrion flies and ambush predators, drawn a#it appeared to ongoing bloodshed and concentrations of the dead on thebattlefield as much as they were 'ordered`into combat by any directing force.

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*gets out the excel spreadsheet and then realises that it is bedtime.*

Feedback in the next few days Hena. No opinion as yet.

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Stats looking good :)

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