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 Post subject: F-ERC changes Lost & Damned
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:19 pm 
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1) A choice of stigmatus covenant coven can select one daemon machines support AND a choice of traitor support.
This change seemed inevitable as a list of Lost & Damned must multiply the stigmatus to acquire daemon machines or traitors support. The opportunity to take one of each for each stigmatus provides a little more flexibility when the constitution of the list army.

2) War engines assaults of khorne and knights daemon of slaanesh can add two units from 4 to 6. The additional cost is for the machines 150pts for Khorne assault and 140pts for the Knights demon.
This opportunity to reinforce this formations was necessary because being too weak and too easiest to break with BM.

3) Ability to take 1 to 3 chaos spawn for an update of a stigmatus. The unit cost remains the same.
It was an?doctical to allow one chaos spawn in choice for update.

Units:
1) Increase the cost of Leman Russ D?molisher due to its new profile of his counterpart in the Imperial Guard. 1 Loyalist Leman Russ  cost 65 points while Ren?gats at 70 points, 1 Loyalist D?molisher cost 83 points, now among Ren?gats 85pts. The report, and the proportion is respected.

2) Alignment of Prince Demon profile with that of the Black Legion

Like as usual  :D

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 Post subject: F-ERC changes Lost & Damned
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:35 pm 
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(okpjay890 @ Mar. 22 2008,13:19)
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Army List:

1) A choice of stigmatus covenant coven can select one daemon machines support AND a choice of traitor support.
This change seemed inevitable as a list of Lost & Damned must multiply the stigmatus to acquire daemon machines or traitors support. The opportunity to take one of each for each stigmatus provides a little more flexibility when the constitution of the list army.


During playtesting we found that allowing 2 support slots per coven led to armies composed of 1/3 cultists and 2/3 support troops. LatD is supposed to be a horde army of massed infantry, with that much support it is basically a armoured-focus thing.

Picking a Coven with no upgrades easily leads to supprt costing 3 to 4x as much as the cultists, and this isn?t how the army is supposed to look.

I think there is room for more wargear-oriented Cultist armies in a Daemon Forgeworld list, but not in the basic LatD.



(okpjay890 @ Mar. 22 2008,13:19)
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Army List:
2) War engines assaults of khorne and knights daemon of slaanesh can add two units from 4 to 6. The additional cost is for the machines 150pts for Khorne assault and 140pts for the Knights demon.
This opportunity to reinforce this formations was necessary because being too weak and too easiest to break with BM.


While reinforcing the concerns I raised above, I can see where you are coming from. My khornate Daemon Engines are commonly broken as well, but at least they are "Fearless" and well-armoured, and opponents keep worrying they might rally and come back with a vengeance!


(okpjay890 @ Mar. 22 2008,13:19)
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Army List:
3) Ability to take 1 to 3 chaos spawn for an update of a stigmatus. The unit cost remains the same.
It was an?doctical to allow one chaos spawn in choice for update.


No problem here.


(okpjay890 @ Mar. 22 2008,13:19)
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Army List:
Units:
1) Increase the cost of Leman Russ D?molisher due to its new profile of his counterpart in the Imperial Guard. 1 Loyalist Leman Russ ?cost 65 points while Ren?gats at 70 points, 1 Loyalist D?molisher cost 83 points, now among Ren?gats 85pts. The report, and the proportion is respected.


What happens to the Demolisher remains to be seen. As you are operating with you own stats and costs, this of course makes sense for you.

Once again, thanks for sharing.

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