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| Author: | wraeththu [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
Hey All, This list is just a minor update to v3.4.1. ?I included the the information in the summoning that Chroma had questions about. ?What happens with extra hackdown attacks and about a GD's DC when returning to a daemon pool. http://oubliette.tranquility-base.us/DL ... edv3.4.pdf Also this is the list I sent off to Jervis and Andy as the final list. Enjoy, -Audrey |
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| Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
I haven't read all of it yet, but it looks good so far. One (very) minor point, these ( ) are parentheses. These [ ] are brackets. For example, for the description of Daemon Prince it says, "The different values for taking wings are shown in (brackets) above." It technically should read "in (parentheses) above." |
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| Author: | Chroma [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:26 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 | ||
Hey Audrey! I think there's still some problems with Greater Daemon DC when they're released and resummoned. 1) If I'm playing a Khorne and Nurgle army, with 1 GD in my Daemon Pool, and my GUO takes a point of damage, I can let it go, and, next turn, summon up a full DC Bloodthister. 2) In the reverse, if I've got a Bloodthirster out, let it go back without taking any damage, then I want to summon a GUO, it can only have 3DC by the way the rules are written instead of the normal 4. Is daemonic "healing" really that big of a deal? It's not going to happen *that* often, and it doesn't seem to even make sense that the damage can transfer over to a completely different/new Greater Daemon. |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
The only time I could see it being a problem would be with some maxed-out cultists. In that case, they can almost certainly summon a GD every turn if need be. They could recycle/regenerate until the daemon was killed outright in a single turn. It's probably not a real balance issue, but it's one of those things that I would prefer not to have around because 1) it potentially looks bad, and 2) someone might at some point figure out a way to exploit it that we have not considered. |
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| Author: | wraeththu [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
Well the only options to make things clear are to either not allow recycling GD or that once summoned you cannot change the GD. ?So if you summoned a Blood Thirster it remians a Blood Thirster from then on even if returned to the Daemon Pool. In answer to your question about GD healing, yes I think it is a big enough deal. -Audrey |
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| Author: | wraeththu [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
Personally I prefer that once summoned all deamons (both LD and GD) remain the type they are first summoned as. But this adds yet one more thing to summoning. |
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| Author: | Chroma [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:58 pm ] | ||
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 | ||
Okay, in all my games with LatD, it's come up *once*... and it seemed, at the time, that I was the only person it had ever come up for and my opponent had no reali issue with facing a "new" GD, so, how is it a big deal? In the games I've played, GDs are either eliminated via breaking a Cultist formation with a clipping assault, blasted apart by a TK weapon, or just left alone. What "big deal" do you see it creating, Audrey? |
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| Author: | nealhunt [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
I think a "keep the damage" instead of "keep the DC" phrasing would solve the Unclean One conundrum. |
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| Author: | wraeththu [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:22 pm ] | ||
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That is a good point Neal. -Audrey |
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| Author: | Lord Inquisitor [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:39 pm ] | ||
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Wow, that's equal parts astute and pendantic as hell. A man after my own heart!  Lord =I= |
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| Author: | Dwarf Supreme [ Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:41 pm ] | ||||
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I'm glad I'm in good company! 
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| Author: | Twahn [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
Only one 'n' in Pedantic, astute meisters... 
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| Author: | Lord Inquisitor [ Tue May 02, 2006 6:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Lost and Damned v3.4.1 |
| Indeed! |
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