atension wrote:
All other chaos lists that have terminators allow for the addition of extra terminators to the terminator formation under the upgrades section. In Steve's' first post the DG retinues it says "upgrades = all". I just left it that way. Could be an oversight I don't know, is there fluff to support the addition of terminators to DG units? If people are opposed or think it wasn't intended I have no issue removing it.
I'm fairly certain it's intentional that the DG Terminators can't have extras and are limited to just 4. It's to counterbalance them being fearless and in all the 4 Epic-UK god specific variant lists the fearless Terminators are 4 only with no upgrades allowed.
I took a look over the list as Mark has been playing it and I've been working on cleaning up some Death Guard models recently. It generally looks good (I particularly like the spacecraft and the ability to add 3 chaos spawn) and I'd like to try it some time. I wanted to offer some feedback and minor typos to fix.
50 points for a Vindicator does seem steep, particularly as they only move 20cm here so are even less likely to get in range than normal. I'd suggest either a points drop, or removing them from the core choices in the vehicle formation and having them be a 35 point add on as in the BL list.
The Terminators entry mention they can have a 'Lord of Decay' upgrade but this isn't listed in the upgrades or given stats. I guess this is the Warlord upgrade? It also says they can have a Nurgle Dreadnought but there's no cost or stats for one so I assume it should refer to a Chaos Dreadnought as normal?
All other CSM supreme commanders have a MW attack as well as their command abilities. As written the DG supreme replaces the DG lord and doesn't have a weapon but I imagine this is a mistake. Change the text to say the DG supreme has supreme commander AND a Man Reaper?
There's no cost listed for the Walker Horde formation?
Have you considered adopting the Epic-UK stats for the Net-EA Plaguebearers? (both here and in the Black Legion list). They had their CC and FF reduced by 1 as they were felt to be too good and to focus them on being tough but not so good at everything.
The Fester Titan is completely identical in stats and cost to the Plaguehound Titan in the Epic-UK DG list. Why not use the same name? Plaguehound makes it more obvious what sort of titan it is too if someone sees it written in an army list.
I like the Plagueship rules, it seems characterful. It's ability to create 3 new units does seem pretty powerful and useful for 175 though, even if they're only small units of zombies. Maybe it should have slow and steady?
Maybe you could add a Plague Drones unit to the list? They're basically Plague Bearers riding on giant daemon flies. The WE, TS and EC lists all have a new daemon unit added and it could be nice to have one for Nurgle and to have stats for them? There's no models but people could convert some, shouldn't be too difficult with some greenstuff and wings from somewhere. I'd make them jump infantry Plague Bearers with 20-25cm move (no infiltrate), maybe 2 summoning points to summon to balance them.
