Heh, didn’t think it would go down that well! Sorry for not running this past you first, Steve, my bad. I had the idea and wrote it down quickly before I forgot – completely neglected to consider the LatD also have summoning. In any case, this is designed to be food for thought. Please don’t assume that any great deal of thought has gone into this!
Everyone should bear in mind that there are two distinct elements here – one is generic daemons and the other is a revamp of the summoning system (both can be considered independently). Neither is
necessary but might be desirable.
Pixelgeek:Thanks for converting the file again. The points for icons can be altered, but it also provides an invulnerable. It could provide some other bonus such as an extra attack to make it more attractive. Obviously stats and points would need to be tweaked. Icons could provide +2 or +D3 points, but this would make summoning GDs rather easy. The summoning cost for GDs could be upped, but that removes the possibility of doing it without icons or sacrifices.
I know people like faction-specific daemon rules, and I know it would be a hard thing to let go of. I think god-specific daemons are more at-home in the LatD, or a true daemonic legion for sure.
Steve:What is the thinking behind the generic daemons? It seems a bit boring and strange to drop some of the units that there are actually models for.It simplifies the mechanics and the army list considerably, it is easier to balance and it brings the focus more on the Chaos Marines.
As for people not wanting to gamble, consider that this can easily be tweaked. But as it is, it isn’t necessarily a big gamble. I can take three icon bearers and summon 4 daemon units automatically. With three icon bearers I can summon a greater daemon on a 3+ without any sacrifice! So a kitted-out formation should be able to summon a reasonable number of daemons.
The sacrifices are indeed meant primarily for the Greater Daemon. However, it might be worth sacrificing a CSM unit or two for the daemons with 2x CC attacks for an important assault. In these cases, I would imagine that the marines are actually possessed by the daemons.
However, consider a formation with no icons or sacrifices – I might consider taking the -1 to activation for the payback of getting a greater daemon (worth far more than 100 points). Since you can do it with any formation, you can “speculativelyâ€Â
