(BlackLegion @ May 29 2008,07:11)
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Yes. Current Epic-Fearless should be renamed Resolute, Calm or something.
In Epic Fearless should do the following:
- Fearless units are allowed an armour saves against Hack-Down hits
- Fearless units never get surpressed (or: never get surpressed but have to make an armour save if the unit is in a position to get surpressed but wishes to fire anyway)
- an all-Fearless formation never gets broken and never makes any withdrawal moves, even if it looses an assault.
- if an allFearless formation has at least the same number of Blastmarkers as units remaining in the formation each additional blastmarker will cause a hit which can be saved normally.
Good? Ideas? Separate thread?
Raa, fear the new Calm Bezerkers!
No, the current Fearless rules are just fine for Fearless units. There are several assumptions you are making that aren't necessarily true:
a) Fearless units suffer hackdown hits in 40K. Yes, they can take additional wounds for lost combat, but that doesn't really correspond to hackdown hits - Fearless units do not run away whether you shoot them or assault them. The fact that Fearless units can be dragged down by superior numbers can be represented by the fact that they are still destroyed if within 5cm of enemy when broken.
b) Fearless units cannot be suppressed in 40K. My Obliterators occasionally get suppressed. Not by any rules mechanic, but because they are fragile and it does happen that hiding them is the only option because they face overwhelming enemy firepower.
I kind of agree with you about the oddity of Fearless units making Withdrawal moves though. However, I've come to appreciate and love the Fearless rules in Epic, I don't think they need messing with.
If we need a sub-Fearless mechanic, then Stubborn works fine.