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Red Corsairs (or generic Chaos Space Marines)
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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 11:35 pm 
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Hmm the Defiler has Invulnerable Save because of being a Daemon Engine. So the Brass Scorpion now should have it too.
Now updated to 3.7 because of this change.

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:48 am 
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Ehm...updated to Version 3.7.1 because i changed Type of the Titans to the correct War Engine instead of Armoured Vehicle :D

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:38 pm 
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@nealhunt: I don't think that the Renegade Chapters have the ressources to build new designes bigger than a Defiler. The would rather use what they have and corrupt it or hire them as mercenaries.
The Black Legion will glady use other Legions/Renegade Chapters troops but Black Legionaire would hardly fight for any other than an other Black Legionaire. And because i see the Death Wheel (and Decimator but i find that the Plaguereaper would fit better) asn an original Black Legion design, no other Legion/Renegade Chapter would have acsess to it.

Yes i know the Defiler is a Black Legion invention too and other CSM use them too but it is a smaller,less powerful and easier to manufacture machine thanthe Death Weel.
At least i perceive it as such :)

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:32 pm 
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With the new Chaos datsheets for Apocalypse i wonder if i shoul dinclude them in the Red Corsairs army list.

This would be:
Khorne Banelord Titan
Khorne Lord of Battle
Khorne Doomblaster
Tzeentch Silvertower
Nurgle Plaguetower
Slaanesh Subjugator Titan

And if yes should i use the published Epic stats or invent my own based on the Apocalypse stats (but the Banelord and LoB stats wouldn't change much, if at all i guess)?

For the Defiler Assault Force i think i will include it.




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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
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No objections? Then i will see what i can do to invent stats.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:31 am 
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I would caution you against bloating the list too much.

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:17 am 
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Sure. But because i included the Brass Scorpion and the Plaguereaper there should be at least one Tzeentch and one Slaanesh Daemon Engine available too.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:51 am 
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Sure. But because i included the Brass Scorpion and the Plaguereaper there should be at least one Tzeentch and one Slaanesh Daemon Engine available too.


Then play the Lost and the Damned : that's where the Daemon Engines were included.

Honestly, Brass Scorpions and Plaquereapers have nothing to do with Red Corsairs in particular ; don't forget Apocalypse was made to allow 40k players to use their whole collection rather than following an army list. Red Corsairs don't have these things just because they appear in this book. Chaos Baneblade and Chaos Titans are enough ; after all, they still have more War Engines than loyalist marines.
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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
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This lie sin the nature of the Chaos Space Marines. They had 10.000 years to develope their own war engines which they did.
And the Red Corsairs will use any troops wich want to fight with them together.
And the Chaos Baneblade is gone (left for Iron Warriors).

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I would keep *all* faction-specific war engines for faction-specific army lists.

I really would just have the Chaos Baneblade & Chaos Shadowsword in this list.

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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
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Never heard of a Chaos Shadowsword. Even the Imperial Guard has problems providing damaged Shadowswords with a new Volcano Cannon and rebuilds them to Stormswords :D

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Never heard of a Chaos Shadowsword


Read the Apocalypse book; All four Imperial SHTs are allowed to be used by Chaos armies.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:01 am 
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(Evil and Chaos @ Apr. 01 2008,00:14)
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Read the Apocalypse book; All four Imperial SHTs are allowed to be used by Chaos armies.

True enough. But for the sake of "army list balance", I don't think it would be wise to include one of the best Titan Killers ever in the Red Corsairs list. Chaos Baneblades are enough (and yes, they're less interesting that the Shadowsword...but it is the most used if you follow the fluff).

As I already said, Chaos Space Marines have already many advantages. There is no need to give them plenty of marked War Engines ; those ones are better seen in "marked" army lists (World Eaters, Emperor's Children and so on).
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 Post subject: [fanlist] Red Corsairs (or general Chaos Marines)
PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:08 am 
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Yes Chaos can use all Imperial stuff in Apocalypse. But this is because they use Traitor Guard troops.
In Epic you can't mix Lost and the Damned with Chaos Space Marines unless you develop a mixed army list.
The Red Corsairs focus on Chaos Space Marines, so no LatD units in there.
The Plaguereaper is in there because it has a BS of 4 instead of 3 suggesting that it is not crewed by Traitor Guardsmen but by Chaos Space Marines.

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(BlackLegion @ Apr. 01 2008,11:08)
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The Plaguereaper is in there because it has a BS of 4 instead of 3 suggesting that it is not crewed by Traitor Guardsmen but by Chaos Space Marines.

The Plaguereaper is more a Death Guard War Engine in spirit ; having a BS of 4 doesn't mean all Chaos Marines Warbands have it. For the same reason, Brass Scorpions are more likely made for the World Eaters first.

In fact, Red Corsairs don't need all these War Engines, because they're raiders. They are much more alike to the loyalist marines in their way of attacking ; strike fast and hard. War Engines are slow, big things ; of course, Red Corsairs certainly use them when they must, but like you said it would be more an Alliance with someone already having them. I mean, they're space pirates ! Having just Renegade Titan Legions in their army list is good enough, because of that.
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