Could you publish some battle reports with or without pictures so we get a better idea of your games. Its worth it because int he past it has revealed very different regional styles of play that mean the same results are hard to repeat elsewhere.

Also do they get the same 75% win rate when you play against them, or only if you play them?

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Well I don't have any battle reports. didn't have time and my friends don't like to prolong battles. I play the Iron Warriors/Tau, my friend IG and my brother has eldar. Below are some lists that we used in our games I used to scavange but they're a little old (when we started playing). If I find the rest I'll post it. I don't remember their matchings so don't consider them as list nr1 vs list nr2 etc.
We try to play for fun, no powergaming and play the regular tournament scenario with objectives (love it, after WFB I hate victory points) on a slightly bigger table. I couldn't find any of my bro. eldar lists on my disk.

All my lords use servo arms.

Iron Warriors list 1. 3500 pts

Iron Warriors Detachment 560
warsmith Lothair Endymion
Havocs
Rhinos60
Hunter50

Iron Warriors Detachment 450
lord
drop pods
Dreadnoughts2

Iron Warriors Detachment 300
lord

Armoured company 375
3preds
3land riders

Terminators x6 390

Forlorn Hope 145
Drop Pods

Forlorn Hope 145
Rhinos

SHT 3 Shadowstorms 675

Devastation Class Cruiser 150

Hell-talon FB 300

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Iron Warriors list 2. 3500pts

Iron Warriors Detachment 450
Havocs
Warsmith

Iron Warriors Detachment 300
Lord

Iron Warriors Detachment 490
Rhinos 40
Vindicators100
Hunter 50
Lord

Dreadnought Assault Pack+dreadnoughts x4 500

Hell Talon FB 300

Forlorn HOpe 125

Iron Warriors Armoured Company 6 preds 300

Iron Warriors Raptor Cult5 200
Lord

Iron Warriors Terminators x6 560
obliterators 170
Lord

3x Chaos Basilisk 275

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Iron Warriors list 3. 3000pts -  my first list ever

Iron Warriors Detachment 510
Havocs 150
Rhinos 60
Lord

Iron Warriors Detachment 520
Chaos Space Marines 70
Havocs 150
Warsmith

Iron Warriors Detachment 300
Lord

Iron Warriors Terminators x6 475
obliterators 85
Lord

Raptor Cult x8 320
Lord

Armoured Company 6x Land rider 450

Forlorn Hope 125

Hell Talon Fighter Bombers 300

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A here are some older lists used by my IG buddy:

Unnamed 3500 Pts  -   Imperial Guard Army

1 Regimental HQ @ 550 Pts
    1 Supreme Commander @ [0] Pts
    12 Infantry @ [0] Pts
    7 Chimeras @ [0] Pts
    1 Hydra @ [50] Pts

1 Tank Company @ 700 Pts
    1 Lemun Russ Vanquisher @ [0] Pts
    9 Lemun Russ @ [0] Pts
    1 Hydra @ [50] Pts

1 Super-Heavy Tank Co @ 750 Pts
    3 Shadowsword @ [0] Pts
    1 Hydra @ [50] Pts      
    3 Lemun Russ @ [200] Pts

1 Infantry Company @ 350 Pts
    1 Commander
    12 Infantry @ [0] Pts
    4 Support Squad @ [100] Pts
         Autocannon (x2)

1 Artillery Battery @ 250 Pts
    3 Manticore @
   
1 Artillery Battery @ 250 Pts
    3 Manticore @ [0] Pts
 
1 Storm Trooper Platoon @ 350 Pts
    4 Valkyries @ [150] Pts
   
1 Thunderbolt Formation (in) @ 150 Pts

1 Thunderbolt Formation (in) @ 150 Pts


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and the second one for 3000pts

Unnamed3000 Pts  -   Imperial Guard Army

1 Tank Company @ 700 Pts
    1 Lemun Russ Vanquisher @ [0] Pts
    9 Lemun Russ @ [0] Pts
    1 Hydra @ [50] Pts

1 Super-Heavy Tank Co @ 700 Pts
    2 Baneblade @ [0] Pts
    1 Shadowsword @ [0] Pts
    3 Lemun Russ @ [200] Pts

1 Infantry Company @ 400 Pts
    1 Commander @ [0] Pts
    12 Infantry @ [0] Pts
    4 Support Squad @ [100] Pts
    2 Snipers @ [50] Pts

1 Infantry Company @ 400 Pts
    1 Commander @ [0] Pts
    12 Infantry @ [0] Pts
    4 Support Squad @ [100] Pts
    2 Snipers @ [50] Pts

1 Storm Trooper Platoon @ 350 Pts
    4 Valkyries @ [150] Pts

1 Vulture Squadron @ 300 Pts
    4 Vultures @ [0] Pts

1 Thunderbolt Formation (in) @ 150 Pts


Nowadays he uses more smaller formations like: Storm Troopers+valkieries, sentinels etc We learned to value the number of activations   And unfortunately he never leaves his house without the 2x 3 Manticore artillery batteries. Damn disrupt.

Have you tried playing against the list yet?

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Nope. Usually we play once a week due due to college studies and sports. I wanted to play against the IW after 3 wins in a row but they didn't want to and prefer to stick to their own lists. They play regular Eldar (though wants to test Iyanden and Seim-Hann) and Steel Legion.


Reposted the list (see original post) - number of things corrected.

Well can you play online using vassal?
So would you say you are better than them when using non iron warriors armies?

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never tried using vassal. Maybe not better than them, but have more experiance as usually I play against them both, and they rarely play against one another. In other words, I get to play more battles than either of them.

From feedback on this thread and discussions with Laylo

Proposed changes-

1 Add
Support formation
Storm Co 6 Assault Iron Warriors(name?) with character and 3 rhinos 225pts
Upgrades Vindicators, Daemon Prince

2 To add a little more testing to the proposed BL changes, which don't seem to be very active, change the relevant units to amtch the BL proposals - defiler, fighters, oblits etc

3 As a result change Oblits to 0-4 to represent links with IW

4 Remove Basilisk formation, add 0-2 basilisks as an upgrade to basic Marine co and armoured co 65pts(?)

5 Add
Grand Artillery Battery - 6 Basilisk platforms 400pts - same stats as basilisk but immobile
Upgrades emplacements, heavy AA gun - are there already stats for this in any list?

6 Remove extra CSM as an upgrade - removes problem of huge marine formations -if you want to upgrade it has to be havocs

7 Drop Siege Dread to 85pts

8 Move Grand Artillery battery and the various daemonic artillery formations to new Artillery support section. Add note in armylist that units in this section activate on a 2 to represent cultist crews and tenuos control of daemonic artillery

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Thanks Steve!

I'll post the list with the changes on Monday in the original post.

As for the naming - do we change any of the names of the infantry companies? So far we have
- Iron Warriors Detachment (core formation)
- Iron Warriors Forlorn Hope
- Iron Warriors Havoc Company
- Iron Warriors 'assault company'?... storm company? Breachstorm? bitter and twisted iron tin-can buddies with chainswords?

Heavy AA gun - nope. Can you give me the stats for the AA gun or a link?

BL changes: to the oblits/defilers and the fighters (both hellblades and hell talons).
- Do we add the Harbringer bomber?
- Do we apply all other changes like Dread Armour to 3+ or Predator FF to 4+?
- Stalker instead of Hunter?

BTW - any ideas on the Corvus assault pod armed Warlord titan?  

Any thoughts to any of the changes guys?

Cheers, Laylo

Hello, seeing as I've got a sizable Epic Iron Warriors force painted, including Basilisks and Vindicators, I'd love to give this list a test - the only problem is I can't read the RAR format that it's been uploaded in.

Any chance of uploading it as a .doc or .pdf file?  Thanks!

You should download WinRAR. Then you can extrakt the files in the .rar file.

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I'll post the corrected version (with the changes above) on Monday when I have time to write it in and check the typos. If you want I can try to pu it in another format if the file won't be to large.

(see first post of the thread)
I've added all the mentioned changes to the list. Sorry for the delay. Unfortunately the file size is to big to put in a doc, so it's still Winrar + doc. I can try making a pdf if desired. i checked for any spelling mistakes as usual, but still if you see any send me a pm.

I presumed the changes to the dreadnought's armour value and the predator's FF value also apply with the rest of the BL changes. Added the Heavy AA gun for the Grand Artillery battery (as in Death Korps of Krieg) and priced it for 50pts.

The last question is - shall we add the Harbringer bomber? or hasn't it been properly tested yet?

Bitter and twisted as usual, Laylo  

Reuppded IronWarriorsV1.5

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