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Looking through the list it seems like it is an attempt to include alot of the Forgeworld minis, but not nessecarily focused directly on a Infantry Trench Regiment (I think that is the feel of the army)
It certainly is, but the Death Korps have a weird tech dichotomy, we'll get to that. 
The inclusion of a large variety of Leman Russes, while being cool, does not seem to feel right for the Death Korps. I would think that a Trench Warfare regiment would have lost their more advanced tanks and would operate them as Support Squadrons and not part of a Tank Company.
The Death Korps are not your standard Siege regiment... they are not a little PDF force like the Barrans, they are highly-equipped with very decent tanks & aircraft, which are used to back up the massed infantry Engagements Krieg is famous for.
It's certain that they have access to some of the most high tech Leman Russ Variants like the Tank Destroyer in fact, so I'm not entirely in favour of removing one of the (already few) Company choices, especially since there's plenty of support in the background for Armoured Siege Regiments coming from Krieg, as well as the more well-known Infantry Siege Regiments.
I also think that including access to the two standard Super-Heavies would make sense.
One of the features of the list is short range, hard hitting power.
In this respect, the Shadowsword doesn't entirely mesh.
In a full-featured, all-units armylist, all four Super-Heavies would have a place in the list.
As it is, I've just gone for the two that are:
- Short ranged. - Aren't included in any other lists.
While the Salamander is a cool mini, I would expect a Trench army to use Sentinels.
The Death Korps is known to use both, and in a perfect world I'd put both in the list.
However, Epic:A is all about small, focused lists, and as with the Super-Heavies, there were factors that pushed me towards the FW model.
- The model is currently produced by a GW company, yet has no rules and no points in any other armylist. - The unit is known to be used by the Korps in the background.
I Would make a Tank Squadron either Leman Russ, LR Demolisher, or Destroyer a Support Formation and the Company Upgrade a pair of Thunderers or Executioners.
3x Destroyer support formations would be pretty obscene, cheap & deadly, but conversely pretty easy to break with the placement of just a few blast markers... this doesn't seem to fit the Krieg's nature to me.
As I mentioned, this list is supposed to represent the varied spectrum of armies that are fielded by Krieg, from Infantry, to Armour-Mobile Infantry, to Armoured Tank Regiment, in a similar fashion as the Steel Legion list from the rulebook can be used to build several different themes.
At least that's how I saw it when we started putting the list together.
Why include Vultures if their are no Valkyries? It seems like they are included to have a Skimmer unit and once again a list that contains the Forgeworld mini. I would leave that for the Elysian list.
Vultures are a unit I have been mulling over removing, since I have little to no background info on Vultures being used by Krieg's armies currently.
I have recently taken an interest in the various Imperial List being developped and the direction they are headed. I realize that it may be a little late in commenting but I think they had to be made.
Not at all... the Krieg list at least is only in the early stages of playtesting right now, this is a good time to raise issues and shape the future of the list.
Note: Most of my info on Krieg comes from the various Imperial Armour books (Especially Vol1) and from plenty of reading around the net... but in the end I've also made a few semi-contentious leaps of faith as to how the final army will look.
I can tell you this; I showed Version 1.5 of this list to Warwick Kinrade (The chap who writes the Imperial Armour books for ForgeWorld), and although he didn't want to get into the specifics of the list's balance for a variety of reasons (One being that he doesn't actually play Epic under 4th edition rules!), he was in pretty positive about the list and said he was generally in favour of it, though there may come a day when ForgeWorld produce their own DKoK list for Epic.
Take that for what you will really. 
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