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Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas |
Well then, you may be as amused by this as I was. I have had IA3 since October of last year (not trying to brag) and LAST week, I discovered in one of the indexes that FW has created all the stats for the various flavors of aircraft that they make (for IG, that is). So, they have stats for both Lighting versions, a missile armed Thunderbolt, both Marauders, and what I find extremely interesting is variants of the Valkyrie and Vulture. All are listed with "counts as" equivalents. So, once we get the other stuff going, it won't be that difficult to put in the aircraft and then see where we land, so to speak. @Ortron I will drop the heavy bolter from the Sentinel. What about the points, I think Neal proposed a point increase to cover the two weapons, so leave the points as is? Everyone Ok with that? _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment |
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Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas |
Fair enough comment. I suppose that there are a number of ways to manage this. I chose teleport because I wanted a mechanism that was already in place and that I didn't have to justify how it worked. So I opted for the simplest solution, because deep down I usually feel, simplest is often times the best. Especially if there isn't a noticeable improvement from simple. As far as the WW II drop mechanisms go, on the SG board, there were a number of people who also expressed a desire (or longing) for those types of actions. However, my source book (IA3) seems to infer that the troops are either airlifted in or the Valkyries fly to altitude and everyone bails out the back and they glide in on their grav packs. I also don't get the feel for the masses of paratroopers that the WW II actions involved, although this can be a relative thing. In the end, I went for simple as I really wanted to focus more on the list development and not a list + game mechanics that would be debated in endless loops exercise. I think the excitement of a list comes from playing it, not theorizing too much about it. ? So, either someone can accept the teleport functionality or not. If not, then this list isn't for them. If they can accept that mechanism, then an interesting time might be had. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment |
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Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:12 am Posts: 2241 |
No, what I had in mind was a fully-foldable version which you dropped off the Valk from a low height (as in - what are they - LARPS drops from C130 aircraft?), cushioned by paras or rockets, with a very short flight time during which the hydraulic pack would stretch everything open - although I still think a specialised Elysian version would be needed. |
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You are right. I had found this previously but had forgotten about it actually. This is definitely the right place to start. Should be easy enough to work with the count as points and go from there. Good idea. Cheers, Rob _________________ Rob |
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Hmm... good point. I need to take a look at my IA3 to see what all they had to say. I agree, this could be handy - however, only if there could be a noticable model difference. It would get fiddly to say the blue ones have Multiple Rocket Pods and the Red ones had twin lascannons but the yellow ones had twin autocannons and the white ones had fuel tanks... etc. Cheers, _________________ Rob |
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Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas |
Keep in mind, they could always sling it "under" the Valkyrie, just like the U.S. does with artillery pieces and heavy lift helicopters. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment |
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Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 11:44 pm Posts: 1891 Location: Katy, Republic of Texas |
I think this is something that we can look at. I understand there might be someone who tries to take advantage of a 3rd turn rush, but to be honest, the idea hadn't occurred to me yet. Now to be fair, the Necrons and Space Marines are both capable of pulling the same trick and there isn't a restriction on them to do that. So, let's get a couple more games in, maybe someone can try the 3TR and see how unbalancing it might be. _________________ Honda "Remember Taros? We do" - 23rd Elysian Drop Regiment |
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