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| Author: | Man of kent [ Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
++++GLYN!!! Look away now! This is my list for Thursday! (only kidding mate...read away: you're probably more knowledgable here than I am...)++++ Evening folks: we've got the the Westbury campaign event coming up, and then it's GT time and I'd like to take a new nice looking army with me (the start of which can be seen in the painting blog...;-)! ) and I'd like some hints and tips on the below list: 3k Tourney Krieg Lookalikes..., 3000 POINTS Baran Siege Masters (Epic UK v301209) ================================================== REGIMENTAL HQ [475] Supreme Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Infantry Platoon (6 Siege Infantry), Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns) INFANTRY COMPANY [300] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Infantry Platoon (6 Siege Infantry), 2 Snipers INFANTRY COMPANY [300] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Infantry Platoon (6 Siege Infantry), 2 Snipers INFANTRY COMPANY [175] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry ARTILLERY BATTERY [175] 3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Bruennhilde Transporters BOMBARD BATTERY [250] 3 Bombards REGIMENT AA BATTERY [150] 3 Blitzen AA Guns, Bruennhilde Transporters REGIMENT AA BATTERY [150] 3 Blitzen AA Guns, Bruennhilde Transporters SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200] Shadowsword SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200] Shadowsword LIGHT TANK PLATOON [175] 6 Siegfried Light Tanks HEAVY TANK PLATOON [300] 6 Ragnarok Heavy Tanks THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150] 2 Thunderbolts 3000pts =========================================== The two beefed up infantry companies are hopefully meant to roll from cover to cover (maybe into some strategically placed trenches...) being followed by the ragnaroks for FF support and shootyness. The Seigfrieds can nip around wherever they're needed. THe rest of the army is kind of needed to sit back and shoot; though perhaps I could change that set of thudd guns in the smaller infantry company for...more infantry? I don't have enough models for more Ragnaroks but could have more Siegfrieds... I'm unsure how many fortifications sets to purchase...is it worth forgetting about those Thunderbolts? Or dropping some upgrades in order to buy another set? Thoughts appreciated! |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
Well...the above list obviously sucked! If anyone can comment on how effective these lists might be I'd appreciate the time :-) Here's a MK2 list as I discovered I don't have enough models for the first one yet! Mk 2 List, 3000 POINTS Baran Siege Masters (Epic UK v301209) ================================================== REGIMENTAL HQ [400] Supreme Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Fortified Position (Trenches, Razor Wire, Bunkers), Thudd Gun Platoon (3 Guns) INFANTRY COMPANY [250] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Infantry Platoon (6 Siege Infantry) INFANTRY COMPANY [250] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry, Infantry Platoon (6 Siege Infantry) INFANTRY COMPANY [175] Commander, 9 Siege Infantry ARTILLERY BATTERY [175] 3 Gotterdammerung Howitzers, Gun Emplacements BOMBARD BATTERY [250] 3 Bombards REGIMENT AA BATTERY [150] 3 Blitzen AA Guns, Gun Emplacements SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200] Shadowsword SUPER-HEAVY TANK PLATOON [200] Shadowsword HEAVY TANK PLATOON [300] 6 Ragnarok Heavy Tanks LIGHT TANK PLATOON [175] 6 Siegfried Light Tanks LIGHT TANK PLATOON [175] 6 Siegfried Light Tanks THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150] 2 Thunderbolts THUNDERBOLT FIGHTERS [150] 2 Thunderbolts€ =================================================== Same idea: I'm going to take 3 bunkers and 3 gun emplacements for the emplacements. Using the bunkers to hide the SC formation (with a little bit of left over trench), and 400mm of trench to put the smaller infantry company in. This list has more activations and is also bolstered by the thunderbolt air cover/support. I've gained another unit of fast scout tanks but lost an AA formation. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
I'd be tempted to add thudd guns instead of extra infantry to the infantry companies. |
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| Author: | GlynG [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
Quote: only kidding mate...read away: you're probably more knowledgable here than I am...)++++ I was planning on coming back and commenting after I wrote my list for the game if I have time (I haven't yet and I have a very hectic few days ahead). I hope others around might though? Come on chaps! |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
10cm move thudd guns in a formation intended as a massed infantry assualt? doens't sound too useful to me chap! Although I'm aware Seigers are good at playing to draw I'm not sure that I really want to play a very static game... |
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| Author: | dptdexys [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
If you were to play the "Kriegmasters" in the usually defensive way then I'd back what EandC had posted about thudd guns, although if your playing them as a massed infantry assault list then the extra infantry will serve better. The only formation I'd probably change is the Bombards replacing them with a normal Howitzer battery. They do have a much better attack than the Howitzers but you'll probably find their the first target of your opponents' "counter artillery" etc. and with your very low strategy rating ,as you know, your usually going to lose the strategy roll off. Unless you are using the Bombards to move forward with the infantry or onto objectives the extra 75 points (if you took Howitzers) could add extra infantry to the 4th infantry Co. Quote: Same idea: I'm going to take 3 bunkers and 3 gun emplacements for the emplacements. Using the bunkers to hide the SC formation (with a little bit of left over trench), and 400mm of trench to put the smaller infantry company in. Don't forget that each individual fortification choice is treated as a formation and has to stay in coherency. They can house more than one formation but they cannot be split to different parts of the board. |
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| Author: | Man of kent [ Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MoK's 3k Baran Seige Army: Help! |
That's a real useful point about the fortifications... |
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