Good to see this list of changes to test Rug! I'm in favour of all the mentioned options.
I like the option of 3 Griffons for 75 points - they have two exposed crew in the rear loading and aiming the gun, so armour 6+ is appropriate. Your reasoning for why the other vehicles have the armour they do makes sense too.
Spectrar Ghost wrote:
The Cadian 200pt Griffon Platoon is if anything, slightly undercosted, IMO. It has exactly the same effect as two Squadrons, so it should scale easily. As an upgrade, the Indirect fire is less useful, but I think they are probably fine as is.
You're comparing apples and oranges. A dedicated formation of 6 Griffons probably is worth 200 points or a bit over though – the costing and use for it is different.
zombocom wrote:
I don't think that sort of change should be done to main lists. Points changes, fine, stat changes, fine, but adding effectively a new formation is the preserve of varient lists, not official ones.
That sort of change has already been done to rulebook lists though. We have altered the rules to allow Attack Bikes in Thunderhawks and Hunters with Predators, which are effectively new formation combinations not possible in the original list. The Swords of Vaul formation in the Net-EA Eldar list is also new formation of units in an official list, with Fire Prisms now being mixed in with Falcons and Fire Storms and at an optionally larger sized formation to boot. I’d argue the official list got it wrong by not including the option in the main list in the first place. I don’t see Storm Troopers in Chimeras as being any more radical or variant than Devestators in Razorback, say. It was me that suggested the change – have a read of
this thread if any of you missed it, rather than me repeating all the arguments here.
What are peoples opinions on Leman Russ / Demolisher upgrade? They’re a decent unit in some ways, but if they are attached to Mech Inf they slow them down a lot and if they're attached to just infantry they make them vulnerable to AT. Perhaps 175 points may be a better cost for them?
Lastly, I have a more controversial suggestion. The consensus opinion seems to be that the best formations in the list are the Mechanised Infantry and Regimental HQ formations. Though they have their uses in some ways, Leman Russ and Artillery Companies are often felt to be poorer choices. Might it be worth slightly increasing the cost of the Req. HQ and Mech. Inf. by 25 points each and slightly decreasing the cost of the Artillery Company and Tank Company by 25 points each? I don’t know if this has been discussed before or not and haven’t necessarily thought it through thoroughly, but it seems like a potentially good idea that could encourage a bit more diversity in the competitive armies.
