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Mortar upgrade is still obviously worse than fire support.
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Perhaps it is, but it is what I thought you recommended. As long as we don't give the Elysians artillery batteries
I'm open to suggestions. Did I misinterpret your recommendation? I thought you said 3 mortars for 50 pts.
That was me that suggested it here as one of several possibilities-
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Mortars... I truly am not trying to bust your chops, but you have to do something quickly with the mortars. It -like the Tauros/Venator relationship- is a no-brainer. In fact it is worse. A playtest game is the only place you will see them fielded because nobody in their right mind would ever choose a 30cm AP5+ weapon (indirect or not) over 2 x 45cm AP5+/AT6+.
Possible solutions:
-Lower the price on the mortars - 2 mortars for 25points? In bulk it might be worth having up to 6 new units, all firing 30cm without LOS, for 75 points. If that is too much, it can be 3 mortars for 50 points or some other combo.
-Blast Templates - give them back a 1 BP attack and simply note AP only on the datafax.
-Make them part of an existing or new formation type. As I described above, a standard unit in a drop company.
-Increased range. 40cm would make them more palatable. Not enough by itself, but maybe in conjunction with other changes. This was my original idea after all: a 20cm range, 40cm indirect, no minimum range on indirect fire.
I was thinking the pricing change might work with a range range (see above) but wasn't sure what combo would be the most acceptable.
The Tauros change to the armament might work. They are similar to Ork Warbuggies and Skorchas as a relationship, although I think it is worth noting that 4 Elysian vehicles are priced 50 points heavier than Ork vehicles with worse armor and will almost always have smaller formation sizes. I'm not suggesting lowering the price because it will get goofy on the cheap activations. Upping the number of Tauros/Venator vehicles runs us into problems with the Sky Talon transports (more than four). I don't have a solution either, but I figured somebody else might.
Oh, a nitpick but you can eliminate the word "Squadron" from the Tauros and Venator datafaxes since they should refer to the individual unit, not the formation.
Armor value is missing from Marauder Destroyer.
For ease of reference from Chroma's posting:
Mortar
INF 15 cm none 6+ 5+ Lasguns
2 × Mortar (15cm) 30cm
(Small Arms) AP5+, Indirect Fire
Not agreeing, just pasting.
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And that looks confusingly jumbled.