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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List  Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:13 am |
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One other thing that I was thinking today - we have Storm Troopers as a company in of itself, not a support unit as normal. Now that being said, we have a bunch of upgrades that you could in theory take with Storm Troopers - but don't really make sense from a fluff perspective - ie you can take HV as an upgrade to a Storm Trooper company? Doesn't make sense - they aren't part of what a Storm Trooper company is supposed to be - but are considered the elite of the normal guard? Maybe that is why they initially put them in the support section, as support units can't get company upgrades? Maybe we should consider placing them back there - after all there has been a precendence for them being there and not a company in of themselves?
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I had this in Version 1 and if I left it out of Version 2 then I apologize. The company upgrades only apply to the Drop Troop companies and the RHQ.
I thought I had put that in there and if not, I will update.
I believe that the Storm troopers need to be ported over from the SL list as is and no upgrades.
The purpose of putting the ST's in the company section is to allow a little bit of a punch or if you really wanted to, a lot of ST's. However, they are not cheap, you don't get upgrades, and in the end they aren't that strong that they can go off and do their own thing.
I can move them back to the Support companies anytime, but I'd really like to see someone "abuse" them in a game first to see if it's really an issue.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:11 am |
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Fair enought, I don't recall seeing the upgrades being limited mentioned anywhere - but I may have overlooked it.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:47 am |
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I'm thinking once we get the Sentinels worked out (seems like we are coming to conclusion on base line infantry and mortar teams) we may be ready to upgrade the list. If you send me the word file (or whatever your using) I can create the PDF (and modify the word file for the new stats if you want) and put it up on a server to be viewed.
I think we are at a point where we need to have these upgrades reflected in the list - play test them a bit, and then start moving on to the next items - whatever they may be. Come back and revisit the changes in infantry, mortar teams, and Sentinels once we have a few games/test scenarios under our belt.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:23 pm |
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I am going to prepare summaries of the comments for the various sections and give to Honda by this weekend so he can start that thar tabulatin.'
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:47 pm |
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I think we are at a point where we need to have these upgrades reflected in the list - play test them a bit, and then start moving on to the next items - whatever they may be. Come back and revisit the changes in infantry, mortar teams, and Sentinels once we have a few games/test scenarios under our belt.
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Agree. I am itching to get some games in with what we are proposing, even if I don't have my Sentinels yet.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:31 pm |
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I'd really like to help with the list layout as well - put some graphic behind it - make it more professional looking and nice (similiar to some of the lists on the SG board). I am fairly graphic savy - so we could come up with something cool.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:34 am |
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| Quote (Cosmic Serpent @ 15 Mar. 2006 (23:47)) | I think we are at a point where we need to have these upgrades reflected in the list - play test them a bit, and then start moving on to the next items - whatever they may be. ?Come back and revisit the changes in infantry, mortar teams, and Sentinels once we have a few games/test scenarios under our belt.
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Amen,
I've been a bit out of pocket and would like to look at something fresh and clean to recenter.
Cheers for the suggestion.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:11 pm |
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I'd really like to help with the list layout as well - put some graphic behind it - make it more professional looking and nice (similiar to some of the lists on the SG board). ?I am fairly graphic savy - so we could come up with something cool.
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The board has approved your application. ?
You start Monday. PM me with your email address and we will proceed.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:26 pm |
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| Quote (Honda @ 17 Mar. 2006 (08:11)) | The board has approved your application. ?
You start Monday. PM me with your email address and we will proceed. |
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:52 am |
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So I added snipers - as I thought we had them in the list, but looking over Honda's list he didn't have them, reason being the Hardened Vets have the sniper ability.
I kind of like having snipers in there, as they kind of represent special weapons squads. I don't feel strongly either way - I can leave them in or take them out.
Question is would having a total of four units with sniper be too much? Snipers do have sniper rifles - which has a nice range that the vets don't?
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:53 pm |
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While Cosmic Serpent is working on the really cool graphics version, I have had CyberShadow update the list.
Changes:
1. Added text to all the unit boxes.
2. Updated Hardened Veterans
3. Updated Mortars
4. Updated Iron Discipline per what we had discussed as of about 3.18.06 (I would expect this discussion to continue)
5. Updated Sentinels a little, this is still WIP.
6. Cleaned up some of the techical edits that Tactica and others caught.
7. Aircraft...sigh. This still has the Cypri Mundi patterns listed along with the Experimental rules.
I am taking this parallel path for two reasons:
1. To allow for gaming until we get the settled version (I have a game tomorrow 3.22)
2. To not put any undue pressure on CosmicS to rapidly produce the graphics enhanced version.
So, give it a go and by all means, if you want to use the experimental aircraft then please do. I intend to given a chance.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:23 pm |
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Be gentle to the marines tomorrow Honda, its not good to make grown men cry 
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:00 pm |
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What the hell is an Avenger?
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:37 pm |
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What the hell is an Avenger?
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Q: When is a Marauder bomber, not a Marauder bomber?
A: When it is an Avenger, grasshopper
I thought we had already tossed the idea of possibly using the IA3 stats for the Marauder, but since there is already a "Marauder", that we could call it something else.
This was just a shot in the dark. If that's going to cause the bends, then it is very easily dropped and we will rely on the Marauder Destroyer as our heavy hitter.
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Post subject: Elysian Drop Troop Army List Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:23 pm |
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@Honda,
Ulghh... envoking a chaos terminator lord from Storm of Iron, "You tax me beast."
In short - same aircraft name, multiple patterns = different armorments.
i.e. Maurader Bomber and Maurader Destroyer are two very VERY different planes based on the same chassis.
There are then Multiple versions of each plane in the form of 'patterns'. Each Pattern of Maurader Bomber may have a different weapons outfit.
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