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Sentinels poll and review
No change 52%  52%  [ 24 ]
4-8 at 25 points each 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Free upgrade to lascannon variant 28%  28%  [ 13 ]
4-8 at 25 points each and free upgrade to lascannon variant 17%  17%  [ 8 ]
Other (specify below) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 46

Sentinels poll and review
Dave
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:22 pm 
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Type    Speed    Amour  CC        FF
LV        20cm      6+        6+        5+
Weapons           Range        Firepower
Multilaser           30cm          AP5+/AT6+
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Lascannon         45cm          AT5+

I think the above profile in addition to 4-8 at 25 points each would make them a more viable list choice for people.

For those who would argue against the free lascannon upgrade and think it should cost something, I say look at the Razorback.  Unless there has been some discussion about it that I am not aware of there's no price difference there between the twin heavy bolters and twin lascannons.  And there's more a difference there than between a multilaser and lascannon.

As an aside, this would also help the unit match the current model for it as many have pointed out.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:27 pm 
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I'm definitely on the side of allowing the Lascannon variant / upgrade.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:33 pm 
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Both are very viable choises, but should be limited same weapon to whole formation. so that no guessing, what weapon is that is possible. Also I think no need for this kind of upgrade is necessary and brings question, should eldar get this kind of flexibility too? So no extra weapon sets! For example marine dread would be just fine with single AC+PF statline.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:34 pm 
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I'm for it too. But IF there will be a variable formation size it should be 3 or 6 Sentinels in the formation because 3 vehicles form a squadron. So the Sentinel formation would constist of 1 or 2 squadrons of Sentinels.

And shure it should be a all Lascannon or all MultiLaser.




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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:54 pm 
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I went for just the lascannon weapon for free. Not sure 8 sentinels in one formation is really a scout formation, and not 6 as they come in packs of 8!
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I'll agree with the point that the Sentinels should all be of the same variant.

@Charad

I like a little bit of customization in some units.  You're right though, too much detracts from the game.  That's why I suggested only a single upgrade as opposed to Autocannon/Missle Launcher/Multi-melta etc.  I don't think it's a huge problem so long as they are all the same type.

Also, giving this option changes the tactical uses of the formation making the list that much more versatile.  And that, I think, adds some fun.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:06 am 
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I'm for the free upgrade because the model that's sold currently is armed with a lascannon.

WYSIWYG.

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3 is worse than 4 for Epic - 1 hit, 1 dead, 2 Blast markers. 3 strong broken 4 strong not!

I would like the free upgrade OR the assault cannon and lascannon versions stuck in the appendix.

Leave the 8 strong formation to other lists.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:29 am 
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Lascannon upg is much more effective in overwatch due to 15cm more range. And I'll prefer lascannons over multilaser, because IG has never suffered from lack of AP. :) And why I'm against is that sentinels are so good formation already, cheap activations and scouts and as TRC mentioned, 4 is good number. :D

Also visually multilaser doesn't differ from lascannon so much...

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:09 pm 
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I agree with Hena, not a problem that needs fixing, though maybe not entirely against the lascannon upgrade. Definitely nothing else though.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:39 pm 
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Perhabs it's unnecessary but:
1. it would make some people happy
3. would it hurt to has lascannon Sentinels?

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:17 pm 
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Ok. In this case then someone should invent a TRUE Armageddon Steellegion Armylist :D Because the one in the rulebook crealy isn't.




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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:11 pm 
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Why is any change needed for Sentinels ?- they are used in virtually every IG list I have ever come across

Is this not just another case of change for changes sake and a desire to put every 40k option into Epic lists

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