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Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development

 Post subject: Re: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 9:16 am 
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I like the idea of Hardened Veterans to assist htem woith CC, Fire Support troopers to help with FF, and for some longer 45cm AT fire support. The Spotter will be dropped, and the Commissar is a compulsory character for every 500 points, and helps with inspiring. As to the Sabre, not every formatoin was given one. Onlky my Regimental commaand, my BTS and my Mortar company. The rest of the drop companies were maximun 10 units for thaty army list as I had dropped the Cyclops.

The upgrades are there to customise the drop company, which can be all purpose, dedicated assault, or support. I have limited upgrades to max 4 which you can only have 1 of each. Most commanders will want to keep most of the drop companies smaller to have more of them. The BTS had a larger formation size to make it more durable, and it did last longer than you expected. Most of the other drop company formations were wiped out quite quickly, as you performed your clipping asaults sometimes 2 per tripple activation, and if you had not tried to kill of as many of my forces as possible, and try to hold, deny and take objectives so that I would have to move out of cover. Not that many of my formations got to cover before being either wiped out or broken and chased away.

I think changing the grey ghosts to have the entire formation get the spotter skill (stops them from spotting if they have a single blast marker) solves the artillery problem. The rocket sentinels, the mortars, will instead get a decently ranged Disrupt AP/AT fire similar to the Space Marine Thuddgun or Thunderfire cannon.

The idea you had of dedicated MW close range units was good, and the Special weapons platoon will be in the next list upgrade. I thought that the Sky talons may not be a good idea, as the drop sentinels can planetfall, and if put on the take, they and the taurus/vbenators have a decent move on the table anyway.

The valkyrie borne rapid response platoon will allow those who want a bit of manouveability and strength to retake objectives an option. Same with the teleport or valkyrie borne Storm troopers.

Compared to other lists out there, the number of core formations might be too much, however the Special weapons platoon can be relegated to support formations. I might increase the number of support formations from 2 to 3 per core formation if I do that. Many specialised lists that do not have a plethora of TK. long ranged MW, WE, and dozens of skimmers tend to have more support formations such as Biel-tan Eldar and so on.

The cost of the core formations will be increased to compensate for their added rule of Infiltrate, and as you recommended a FF of 4+. Hopefully this will keep the popcorn lists rare, and still keep them competitive in tournaments, as they will likely be broken and die off quickly once on the ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:16 am 
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Version 4.3.0 has been added to the first post in PDF format. I think this version allows for some stronger yet not too large formations, and deals with the Elysians lack of initial punch when they land, and engage.

I have greatly reduced thge amount of Artillery, in fact only the grey Ghosts can call in a single artillery fire attack (as a formation - which makes it hard to supress all the units that can spot). All other former artillery type attacks have been made into ranged attacks similar to the Thudd Gun or Thunderefire cannons but with Distrupt to assist the initial softening of enemy before the assault.

A special weapons platoon has been added to the support formations (max one per core Drop Company though), to give a little UMPH into the initial strike, and provide some very short ranged 15cm MW support fire.

The drop troopers all now get Infiltrate to represent thier sudden strike into the middle of the enemy (and their desire to close with them rather than being out in the open and shot to pieces). To allow for thier Plasma Guns, I have increased commanders, and drop troops FF to 4+- however I have increased the cost of the formations to account for these changes. Where orks are better in CC and love a good all in brawl, they are better in FF and like to throw stuff at the enemy (usually balls of Plasma energy).

Formation prices may increase even more if I find the cost does not account for the changes made. I have also dropped the amount of upgrades a core formatoin gets from 4 down to 3, so you can not buiild a formation that no-one can break. Spotters are history as well, and all the sky talons are removed from the list. Only Valkyries are allowed as transports, and only for the Storm troopers, and the Air-Cav Response Platoon. Valkyries have also been made cheaper, but they lose their 1 shot template weapons.

This will make the army less of a fast artillery force, and more of a hard punch strike force that is also fragile, with enough support units to place blast markers on enemy formations before the attacks commence. I had thought of dropping the Marauder bombers, as they are seldom taken and do not do that much anyway.

Test the list - give feedback. Let me know if the formations are too cheep or whether the list has too much umph or is balanced just right.

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 Post subject: Re: Elysian Drop Troop Army List V4.0 development
PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:30 am 
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I made a small test list for this new version of the army.

It seems fairly well balanced. and only 13 formations including the Spaceship and a lightning squadron.

Elysian drop list army ver 4.3.0 – 3000 points – 13 Formations
Core formations – 1225 points
300 pts – Regimental Command Company + sabre + Commissar [Supreme Commander]
300 pts – Elysian Drop Company + Fire Support Troops + Sabre + Commissar
325 pts – Elysian Drop Company + Sabre + Hardened Vets + Cyclops + Commissar [BTS]
300 pts – Elysian Mortar Drop Company + Sabre + Fire Support Troops + Commissar
Support Formations – 1475 points
250 pts – Elysian Special Weapons Platoon
275 pts – Grey Ghosts
200 pts – Elysian Storm Troopers Platoon
300 pts – Elysian Vulture Squadron
150 pts – Drop Rocket Sentinel Squadron
150 pts – Drop Rocket Sentinel Squadron
150 pts – Drop Sentinel Squadron
Allies, Space Ships and Aircraft – 300 points
150 pts – Luna Class Cruiser
150 pts – Lightning Fighter Squadron

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