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Marauder - what to test
Quick - 3BP and 250 points 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
Extensive - 2DC, 6+ save, 3BP, twin lascannon, 2x twin heavy bolters (AA only) 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
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Marauder - what to test
orangesm
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:09 pm 
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'Keeping it simple' will not increase its appeal when compared to artillery.  It still means the lose of 50% effectiveness for (if I remember correctly) 2 hits.  I would even let the BP stay 2BP if the aircraft was made a DC2 Armor 6+ aircraft.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:23 pm 
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And how about to allow 3 Marauders per squadron?

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(orangesm @ Jul. 15 2007,16:09)
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'Keeping it simple' will not increase its appeal when compared to artillery.  It still means the lose of 50% effectiveness for (if I remember correctly) 2 hits.  I would even let the BP stay 2BP if the aircraft was made a DC2 Armor 6+ aircraft.

It increases its appeal for me and other playtesters, if not yourself.  A 250 point arty battery is pretty vulnerable too.

As I said in the other thread, 2BP means you lose a hell of a lot more than 50% effectiveness when you lose 50% of the planes. Thus the 3BP.

250 points, 3BP. These proposals for turrets all over the place are just a red herring.  

3 Marauders = no cos of SG pack size and Armageddon fluff. All these things have been covered before.

By the way do people realise that the racks on the SG model are just whirlwind launchers stuck on upside down?  :D

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:52 am 
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Why? Only because of WYSIWYG?
Then please make the SG Marauder an entirely new plane.

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Aye, call the SG model the 'Avenger Fighter-Bomber' or somesuch. :)


Note that I'm on the side of 2DC, 3BP for the 'Marauder Bomber'.

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orangesm
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How about we test both?  See which one feels right. If we test one for a bit and then test the other or have two groups of testers (no switching) and honestly report how the aircraft plays only compared to the previous version (and not the other version)  we could determine which one feels like it is more of the medium bomber.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:40 am 
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Hi, my vote go to the extensive version.

I think the marauder will be more playable with an armor of 6+ DC2 (in relation with the W40k profile) and a 3PB for representing the real power of an heavy bomber. A marauder should be compare to a B-52 bomber IMHO.

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im going for the 2DC overhaul, its working for the AMTL list so it should work here... 2DC feels right for a bomber...

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greetings..

I'll again throw my hand up for the revised 2DC, 6+ save, 3BP version at 300pts to 350pts
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I reckon that future lists can be x pattern and use the FW model, or x pattern and use the SG model(s) (there are two you know). The simple change as a 'generic' medium bomber is fine to be going on with ultimately, even if aesthetics demands other considerations!

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There are now three FW Marauder models***, and a Marauder Destroyer too. Not sure if you'd know that if you've been without 'net access.



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Marauder AWACS
Marauder carrying what is essentially a MOAB

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