Well I've based my storm ravens as being skimmers rather than flyers, so I hope that's the direction the rules take x-D

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Stormravens in the GKs list are the same as they are in BA list.

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Actually they're not; They've got psycannons. Regardless, both lists will use [named force] Storm Raven due to the specialist units and nature of both forces so there's a bit of room for wiggle.

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updates in Stormraven thread linked above.

tl;dr

For BA I want to see some tests with them as Upgrade only, no independent formation. 2 for for 125 points, no planetfall. Updated stats in afore mentioned thread. Go forth and let the play-tests be many.

I am not going to discuss hypotheticals and list theme discussions at this point in time (though that will be needed).

For the record, I consider this trial a Tier 3 priority. Focusing on the IF push for approval is paramount. I'm looking to see more how we can use them to dominate the board.

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Im just getting into Epic, and collecting Blood Angels. I was just wondering if i could get some advice on a starting 3000pt list for BA? Ive got a boat load of models already, so not really limited by that.

Since NetEA blood angels are not approved yet (i think) i would advice you to build a list from the codex marines list first so you can use it in tournaments.

Then, you could get more BA-specific units and help playtest the list.

For a codex list i would do:

1 tactical squad + supreme commander + hunter
2 landspeeder units
1 predators + hunter
2 warhound titans
1 thunderbolts
1 terminators + chaplain
2 thunderhawk
1 bikes + chaplain

That will give you a list of 2950p in NetEA, the last 50 points can be spent on a Lascannon Razorback for the tacticals and 1-2 landspeeder upgrades.

Hope this helps!

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Just to clarify:

I would still paint the whole army in a blood angels colourscheme!

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I like the look of the list a lot
Just to save me reading a lot of pages... Is there a general consensus that this list is balanced compared to epic:UK space marines?
Just so I know I can play this without feeling guilty, or do I need to tell opponents they should feel free to play Eldar Titan legion/drop podding mega gargants if I do?

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the list has some quite serious balance concerns amongst the marine army champions currently.... my advice would be to work with the EUK blood angels list and perhaps proxy storm ravens as land raiders.... it's far from ideal and personally I'm not a fan of the EUK blood angels list, but I would say more development is needed with the NetEA blood angels....

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If this list needs more development I can do some testing as my space marines are Blood Angels based on the epicUK atm but I'm keen to see the development of the stormraven in variant space marine lists. In what area's does the list need testing, is their a consensus on the stormraven and if their are problems in it's composition what are they.

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Well any testing is welcome but I doubt we'll see the Raven in anything else (at least for the foreseeable future) but this and the GK list. Considering that both lists would use customized forms (BA Storm Raven/GK Storm Raven) they don't even really need to be the same type of unit (not that they can't be, just we've got wayyyy more flexibility than is usual) there's even less cross pollination than would be expected.

Specifically in the BA list is even the nature of the storm raven which is a sordid tale documented in this and other threads and there's little consensus on what's the primary mission of the vehicle, and by extension, this list itself.

Right now the most important aspects are trying to figure out is this a gunship or is it an assault skimmer or even really an AC. If you want to play with the above stats and give your gut feeling on the fun to play and face against that vehicle, it's appreciated.

However, if you want to do something honesty more effective for Marines in general, I'd rather direct efforts toward finishing the Imperial Fists. Gtting that completed really frees up more energy for things like Guard and Inquisition lists.

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Well I was conflicted on the subject of the stormraven whether AC or skimmer. I would now swing to towards it being a skimmer, it fills the need for fast elite transport/support for space marine troops and something besides rhinos, razorbacks and land raiders.

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I just recently bought a boatload of BAs off of Atension and will try and help playtest. I'm still fairly new to Epic but he is a veteran so our combined feedback may be of use. The first list I plan to try out is as follows. Hopefully I can play the test next weekend and get some pics/a report up.

BA 3k Test One, 3000 POINTS
Blood Angels (V2.3)
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DEATH COMPANY [400]
Chaplain, 4 Assault Death Company Units, 2 Stormraven Gunship

TACTICAL DETACHMENT [375]
6 Tacticals, Furioso Dreadnought, Captain

THUNDERHAWK [200]

TERMINATOR DETACHMENT [350]
4 Terminators

TACTICAL DETACHMENT [450]
6 Tacticals, Supreme Commander, Rhinos, Blood Angels Hunter

DEVASTATOR DETACHMENT [325]
4 Devastators, Blood Angels Hunter

PREDATORS [350]
4 Predator Annihilator, Blood Angels Hunter

BIKE DETACHMENT [300]
4 Blood Angels Bike, Attack Bike, 2 Land Speeders

DEVASTATOR DETACHMENT [250]
4 Devastators, Rhinos

I think your activation count is low

shit can the dread from the tacticals. It will slow them down. You will automatically get rhinos. No spaceship. why not take them? Personally I never use a captain.

Too many hunters. Look the planes are coming. CAP and AA fire is like a retard at the carnvie throwing darts. Good luck. I had Tau last tourney with air superiority and AA out the ass. The planes still came. Total waste

Bike detachment, normally are a fire magnet or a throw away. Don't put too many points into them

go with a standard bike and speed detachment combo. It is easier to learn how to apply each. Running one will only piss you off and increase the learning curve. Bikes are scouts, use them as such

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