So your Heavy Conversion Beamer can't shoot at targets between 30 and 40cm?
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
From here: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-4 ... IONER.html Wh40k rules: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/downloads/p ... tioner.pdf Suggested stats: Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon 2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ - Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 30cm 4+ 6+ 3+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Plasma Destroyer 30cm MW4+ Macro-weapon 2 x Heavy Bolter 30cm AP5+ - |
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| Author: | Simulated Knave [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I'd recommend something like: Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 4+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Plasma Destroyer 30cm MW4+ Macro-weapon 2 x Heavy Bolter 30cm AP5+ - AND Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Heavy Conversion Beamer 0-40cm AP3+/AT5+ OR 40-75cm MW3+ Macro-weapon 2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ - |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
So your Heavy Conversion Beamer can't shoot at targets between 30 and 40cm?
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| Author: | Simulated Knave [ Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU MEAN. I WOULD NEVER MAKE SUCH A FOOLISH MISTAKE. WOULD I TALK THIS LOUDLY IF I MADE MISTAKES? |
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| Author: | Onyx [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I prefer BL's stats but only because they are simpler in gameplay. I note that these are available to a few chapter including Black Templars. Could this tank be used in a list like the Templars to help off set the none availability of Warhounds? Say a limited number of Predators from a detachment can be upgraded for x points? |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I did make a mistake too. The Plasma Destroyer doesn't slow down the tank. So Speed 30cm remains. Also adjusted the FF value to better match the Predator Destructor. If two Heavy Bolters and an Autocannon can gove FF 3+ so can twi Heavy Bolters and a Plasma Destroyer 
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I know I know I am resurrecting threads here tonight. Just noticed this in the 40k rules: Quote: Firing Calibration: This weapon may not be fired if the model carrying it has moved in the same turn, regardless of the Relentless special rule or if the carrying model is a vehicle, etc. Perhaps this is appropriate Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon 2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ - Notes: Slow Firing thoughts? Just like to get this put to bed and a suggested price tag added. |
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| Author: | BlackLegion [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
If you put Slow-firing in the noters then the Lascannons are affeckted too. |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
I guess we can put slow firing on the weapon??? Precident? |
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| Author: | Spectrar Ghost [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
jimmyzimms wrote: I guess we can put slow firing on the weapon??? Precident? Plasma Cannon, etc. |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
damn you're right. my eyes read across that and catch "slow firing" and my brain shuffles it into the notes section. Never play with any anyways so never came up. Sweet so then-> Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight Armoured Vehicle 25cm 4+ 6+ 5+ Weapon Range Firepower Notes Heavy Conversion Beamer 75cm MW4+ Macro-weapon, Slow Firing 2 x Lascannon 45cm AT5+ - |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
So let's talk price then. Space Marine Deimos Pattern Predator (either load out) -Add 1 Executioner +100 points (should this be 75 like the hunter instead?) Should this instead be a formation (4 for 325?)? |
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| Author: | Dobbsy [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
Is this thing part of the Heresy items list from FW or is it for straight-up 40K games? |
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| Author: | jimmyzimms [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
40k. It predates the Heresy Announcement by months. I am sure they will make an appearance there as well. |
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| Author: | Flogus [ Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Deimos Pattern Predator Executioner |
The Conversion beamer is quit simple to build with a Predator and an old eldar Vibrocannon ! |
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