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[NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
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Author:  Chroma [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Greetings from the NetERC and the NetEA Project!

Please find attached the 2010 Draft of the Space Marine Army section of the NetEA Army Book. Please examine this document for typos, inconsistencies, and unclearness, or any other issues you may feel need to be resolved before final release.
Thank you!


This section includes the following armies:

CODEX ASTARTES SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - APPROVED

WHITE SCARS SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - APPROVED

SCIONS OF IRON SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - APPROVED

SALAMANDERS SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - APPROVED

BLACK TEMPLARS SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - IN DEVELOPMENT

BLOOD ANGELS SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - IN DEVELOPMENT

RAVEN GUARD SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - EXPERIMENTAL

SPACE WOLVES SPACE MARINE ARMY LIST - EXPERIMENTAL


If there are lists you feel have been missed, please feel free to contact myself, Hena, or any other members of the NetERC.

Attachments:
2010 - NetEA-ArmyCompendiumS1.1 - Space Marines.pdf [280.81 KiB]
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Author:  Angel_of_Caliban [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
I'm sad not to see Dark Angels in that list. But that's probably because there is a lack of agreement and push or AC at all. Its more of a confusing mess. *Sigh*

Even it Epic my Angels get shafted...lol!
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
They to be honest with a conservative terminator option can go as approved. As it is I'm sure they will turn up as in development. I'll do a new list to reflect neals land raider suggestion and drop the assault terminators (have 4-6 normal instead) once I've gone through the whole thread and answered all the points - saying that I can't imagine much will change. As for AC's its the same as the salamanders so we can't be all that bad :) Now though dinner for daughter as I've severed the hedge trimmer power cord with the hedge trimmer.
Author:  frogbear [ Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
With regard to this:

Quote:
1.1.5 PENDING SPACE MARINE ARMIES
These are lists that are either in early stages of development, lying fallow, or currently unsubmitted to the NetEA Project. Please let us
know if you think we’ve missed any, and if you’ve got ideas for new, or improved, lists, we’d be glad to hear from you!

APOCRYPHA OF SKAROS – Simon “Simulated Knave” Jack
DARK ANGELS - Unknown
IMPERIAL FISTS – Andrew “Frogbear” Palermo
IRON HANDS – Chris “The Real Chris” Hayes


Imp Fists are highly experimental at this stage, however I will get you the list later today. If anything, they have had a few playtests. I will
1. remove a Terminator variant
2. make a final decision on the assault terminator stats

Everything else, after the changes above should be fine to be left for a year.
Author:  The_Real_Chris [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Oh and I'll do it in word this time :)
Author:  frogbear [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
I have just sent the Imperial Fists as a word doc to Chroma

Changes made to lock the document in for its inclusion:

- Removed standard Terminators as an option
- Replaced Terminator Assault stats with CC2+ EA+1MW, FF0, and Invulnerable Save (As suggested by E&C - Termies no longer have 2x MW attacks)

As most of the list has standard Marine units (and the Achilles which has been greatly toned down and possibly over priced), there should be no issues with balance and costings. All Marine units should be in line with everything Hena has layed down as standard.

Cheers....
Author:  BlackLegion [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
You have to mention that the Salamanders Tacticals and Devastators have different FF values than their non-Salamanders counterparts.
Salamanders Tacticals FF = 5+ (instead of 4+)
Salamanders Devastators FF = 4+ (instead of 3+)

But the rest looks fine. Thank you for your work Chroma :)
Author:  Man of kent [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Coming along swimmingly :-)
Author:  frogbear [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Hena wrote:
Imperial Fists: This list has been around for a month or so, so wasn't going to include it immediately.
My main drive has been with lists that are finished or nearly so, not include every experimental thing there is.


Hena

I would ask you to reconsider this as most of the units are standard Marine so most have the playtests to be seen as balanced. The rest are in line (costing and balance) with your normal Marine units as well.

Just because it has only been out a short time (more than a month actually) does not mean many hours worth of work has not been poured into it's development to get it up to speed. I even have no less than 3 playtests with the list which is more than I can say for some others being included in the NetEA project.

The Doc I sent Chroma (and now yourself) is ready to be 'locked' for a year. Can I please have you reconsider this.

Thank you
Author:  Dave [ Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
What happened to halving BMs for assault in TSKNF?

The THawk should be able to transport attack bikes as well. Also, a few of them are listed as Bomber and others as just "B".

For the White Scars shouldn't Tacticals have the Vindicator and Hunter Upgrades? Same for the Terminators? And Vindicators for Assault?

Also, why are Hunters 50 points there? Their Attack Bikes never had walker, did they? Trying to remember.
Author:  Chroma [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Dave wrote:
The THawk should be able to transport attack bikes as well.

Attack Bikes have a note saying they count as Bikes for transport purposes.

Quote:
Their Attack Bikes never had walker, did they? Trying to remember.

Just regular White Scars Bikes have walker.
Author:  Dave [ Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [NetEA] Space Marine Army Section - DRAFT 2010
Well that's a lovely piece of Errata. :P

I guess I'll start a separate topic for this then, as there's a few things to consider.
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