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BTW here you can download the ImperialArmour Volume 2 Rules Update (V1.3) Revised:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/pdf/IA2Update28Aug.pdf

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Well, yes.

The only problem I would have if I was riding in the new transport is that I think they have the design bass-akwards. If the payload is what is important, then why are the "guys" in front where everyone can shoot them?

Inquisitor: And then what happened Captain?

SM Pilot: Well sir, them Hydra's plastered the front of my ship pretty good...

Inquisitor: I rather imagine they did. Do you recall if anyone survived the inbound flight to assault the heretics?

SM Pilot: Well sir, I dropped the assault ramps and waited for several minutes, but didn't see anyone leave. I do want to say that me 'n my wizzo didn't get a scratch, sir, so that worked out well.

Inquisitor: Yes, I'm sure you feel that way. Please bring me the design team for this abomination, I have some potentially painful questions to ask.

Anyway, interesting looking vehicle and I guess we'll see how it develops. Any word on who the antagonists are going to be? Orks, possibly given the recent attention they have been getting.

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I see your point on the design but perhaps it's very armoured and fast and avoids flak largely that way.

It is indeed orks

The Land Speeder Tempest is seen by GW/FW as the Space Marine's answer to not having any atmostpheric fighter aircraft.

As BlackLegion notes, it has an AA mount on one of its weapons, so that is its niche... and it would seem to sit well in the Raven Guard army list.

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If the tempest is added to the Raven Guard list I may well add it to my CAD todo list.

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A Storm Eagle Dropship would be cool too.

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Fluff wise the Land Speeder Tempest is a White Scars invention.

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If we add it here can we add it to the White Scars list too please? They did create the vehicle afterall and are said to have multiple squadrons of them, compared to the many other chapters who have them only tending to have a few vehicles in their chapter as a whole (if Raven Guard are into their landspeeders they could well have more too I reckon).

Hey it could be a way to do something new and interesting with the Net-ERC White Scars list I'm not that fussed on the Hunter (can't stand the model and would like to CAD up a AA marine Hyperios one day if I ever get into that) but the prospect of an AA interests me. Suddenly pure bike and land speeder armies, become feasible without having to call on their thunderbolt mates to help them out.

Hmm...

Space Marine Land Speeder Tempest
Type Speed Armour CloseCombat Firefight
Armoured Vehicle 35cm 4+ 6+ 4+
Weapon Range Firepower Notes
Tempest Assault Cannon 30cm AP5+/AT5+/AA7+ -
Twin Tempest Missile Launcher 15cm AP4+/AT5+/AA5+ -  

Notes: Skimmer, Scout.

AA stat on the Assault Cannon could easily be dropped. But iincluded it to emphasize the Tempests AA role. Yes the ML range is very short but ground AA with 360° fire arc reduce -30cm from their range. But i suppose the LS Tempest would be in a formation of 4 or 5 units and with Scout can cover some area despite the short range.

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I'd drop the AA shot from the Assault Cannon.

I'd make the Firefight 5+.

I'd make the twin missile launcher 45cm range (I assume your 15cm is a typo).


And I'd make it a.. 50? ... point upgrade for Land Speeder formations, unless there's background that mentions them operating apart from other Land Speeder types (and there may be).

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I was thinking more like:



I see no reason for a 15cm range at all, as it has a dedicated AA mount, just like the hydra which doesn't lose range. Also AA4+ seemed a bit much to me. Consider the hydra as the closest equivilent; a twin autocannon has AA5+ so a twin missile launcher should too, as they are otherwise identical stat-wise.

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Why not create a new White Scars variant with a Speeder-focus instead of Bikes?

Each Marine army doesn't have to be deployed the same way and might have radically different setups during different battles.

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It has less powerful land-attack weapons than a Land Speeder Typhoon, and that has FF5+, so the Tempest should only have FF5+, IMO.

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According to the Update file 1-3 Tempests are a Fast Attack Choice.
1-3 Land Speeders also are in Codex Space Marines a Fast Attack Choice.
Background talks about a squadron of 3 White Scars Tempests taking out a Chaos Reaver Titan.

So 1st Tempests act in their own formations only.
2nd Codex Land Speeder Detachments should be 6 Land Speeders not 5.  

The 15cm isn't a typo as you can read below the stats. I took 30cm from the range as with the Hydra wich would have a 75cm range (it has Battlecannon range in Wh40k)if it hasn't an AA-value.

But right the ML AA value should be AA5+. Remembered it wrong.

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