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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:39 pm 
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Well, SG stats can be balanced out.

What seems to be harder is to get the list approved.

I am not a fan of the SG, but I'd rather get traction on the list than just leave it unplayed.

So logic would indicate that the addition of a balanced and fluffy unit type (though perhaps a bit corner case)to a list is an easy compromise in order to get the list approved.

Unless you have a better idea to get the list playtested?

Edit: I see that "feeling" seems to be important for you. What feeling are you looking for exactly?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:38 am 
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I suggest testing the list with and without Sanguinary Guard. If the addition of the Sanguinary Guard gives teh Blood Angels a more BloodAngely feel then the better. If not never mind :)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:42 am 
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Hmm yeah I'd prefer an in or not approach so we don't have to split the playtesters.

Majority just needs to deceide if we do want them in.

Do I need to put up a poll?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:43 am 
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probably best

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:54 am 
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Dobbsy wrote:
I dont feel that X number of playtests matters. If we talk long enough about it we could justify any unit addition to the game, the question for me is should we start including all new gear into every list just .. because? My feeling is, no.

How do others feel?


Well, I think it's entirely inaccurate to say that including SG in the BA list is "just because". It's not "just because", and as I've been arguing (perhaps unconvincingly?), they actually are armed significantly differently from anything else in the BA list and fill a different role. I don't think it's just a fluff inclusion. What else in the game has every single model wearing artificer armor and wielding master crafted power weapons with a space marine statline and jump packs? Nothing.

I just feel like if we're going to have units like Plague Marines in the BL list, then SG are certainly different enough from assault marines and Death Company to warrant their own entry. And, as I said, I really am not a BA fanboy. I truly believe it's appropriate.

But, as I said, I'm fine with deferring to consensus and would agree a poll is probably best at this point. I do hope everyone will consider my arguments when casting their votes.

EDIT: I'd be happy to publish as many playtests as I can. I could probably crank out three in a month.

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Then put them in the list If they aren't a competitive choice then people will just skip them. Better to have useless units in a list (i look at you Attack Bike!) than overpowered ones.

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Xenocidal Maniac wrote:
Well, I think it's entirely inaccurate to say that including SG in the BA list is "just because". It's not "just because", and as I've been arguing (perhaps unconvincingly?),

Sorry, my turn of phrase wasn't meant to mean "on a whim" it was more supposed to be a blanket statement of various reasons. Apologies if it seemed I was dismissing the argument - I definitely wasn't.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:48 am 
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I just feel like if we're going to have units like Plague Marines in the BL list


just try to skip the BL list thing :D I already mentioned why it has Plague Marines, etc.

I'm against a new unit -maybe it's seems fluffwise, but we sholud not follow mainstream 40k every time. We don't need wraithknights, sternguard, SG, etc -next editions of 40k maybe eliminates these units. The BA list has it's own flavor, it's different enough from codex marine list, and needs to get aprroved soon.

I don't support to start over a long period of playtesting because of a -maybe- useless unit. go for approved :)


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