!) yes they good, i find they tend to pick up alot of BM and then fail to activate but they do earn there points

2) yes that is the intention   , if i use that formation i sometimes put my SC and the Emperor’s champion in that formation   i find that formation hard to use mostly because of the amount of space it takes up on the table, it's tends to be i range of alot os cliping engagements.

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thanks Hena i was just about to post that very thing!!!

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Come on tim, 11 razors and a rhino

Incidentally could I get the say 12 razorbacks and 4 land raiders?

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I thought they were to be a lower risk air tranport option - as you can only lose 1/3 - 1/2 of a formation if a transport is shot down. Indeed you can take a three strong formation for more FF on the ground, more stuff contacted and even an empty ablative transport for taking flack hits. A horde even in the air

Still it strikes teh cynical as a way for small fomrations to bring their rhinos along. That and entirely unconnected to pulsar having painted a bunch of BT thunder transporters

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First unit type:
Bikes + Landspeeders is valid.

Second Unit type - Emperors champion cannot be selectd with fast attack units as he is a specific upgrade limited to:
Crusaders
Sword Brethren
Terminators

Perfectly valid for a chaplain to be in a neophyte stand but emperors champiuon can't be in the unit.

Yes I have considered this as they are reasonably powerful, however all formations are 5+ FF and are a little fragile, so counter attacks are a big threat.

The double punch works better with other formations and leaves you an additional activation.

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yes FF 4+ is a typo, but i'm still not sure about them, i've been using them at 5+.

but after thinking about it you shouldn't be able to to have Neophites without Initiates when buying a formation, I'll say " Neophites may only be brought as an upgade for formations which contain units of the same type i.e. bike for bikes"

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you can't add one bike to the formation, you have to buy five bike OR 5 Land speeders you can't interchange them and then add Neophites to the bikes

but i'll work on the wording.

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Hmmm...  I've only played the list a couple times and never used them as an air assault army.  I could see that several infantry formations in Thawks might cause the army to be relatively immobile on the ground.  However, they still have the normal Assault Marine options and, even better, they can easily take Bikes/Neophyte Bikes as a Thawk load.

As far as the ground formations I found them just as maneuverable than codex armies.  If anything the lower neophyte saves meant the infantry was less likely to be stranded without surviving transport.  Of course, I use a lot of fast attack formations in general, so Neophyte bikes got a workout in the couple of games I played.  Those never lose speed.

yes BT are ment to have Hordeish tendencies but there still a strike force, they still don't want to waste resources on a target by using a large slow force when a small one going in quickly would do as good if not better job.

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