I think the last two lists posted are significantly better than the warlord example. Although I think I would prefer the LC as the BTS for pure frustration value. I mean isn't that the point of popcorn lists in epic. It isn't normally that they are OTT but rather that they are extremely frustrating to play against. I can't see how the scout lists will win the majority of their games but I can definitely can see how they would affect the opponents enjoyment of the game. Thinking back to when zombocom and I were testing the Tau tetra lists which I think were 16 or 17 activations (I can't remember it is in a thread on here somewhere) the games we played were horribly tedious. Although it must be said the tetra list was a little bit more extreme than these examples. But I think on reflection I wouldn't be opposed to scouts being raised to 175 points simply from a player experience point of view.

Hear, hear!!

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Just for the record, here's my first go with the Scout list.
http://hordesofthings.blogspot.co.nz/20 ... ranid.html

Not a great test I know but just added seeing as I bothered to play it. I did manage the combined assaults at the start of turn 2, relying on firefight given i was facing Tyranids.

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I like it but I doubt any Marine player who relies on them will agree. I also think they could be pairs only but that was shot down when I adjusted the list.

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