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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:17 pm 
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Quote: (mnb @ Dec. 13 2009, 03:23 )

i hate to bring in more possible changes, but there was mention a while back about the warbarque needing some changes. i don't agree but i thought i'd throw it out there in case someone has a good idea. i know adding an AA shot was suggested, which might be fun (not having to depend on the always broken pylon)

Most concern I've heard about the Warbarque is that it lacks flavour rather than being under or over powered. Given the number of changes we're suggesting making here already, such a flavour change can probably wait.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:16 am 
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agreed.
so basically, there is no need to rehash the same discussion. since we were pretty much universally for all the changes mentioned in the first post. so we just need to hash out the correct wording for the monolith formation and decide on the change to the wraiths (yea).
but where do we go with it if we are all in agreement but have no army champ?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:46 am 
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Quote: (mnb @ Dec. 14 2009, 02:16 )

but where do we go with it if we are all in agreement but have no army champ?

The NetERC will be working on that.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 2:41 pm 
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What does this mean?
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Portals can only be used by Infantry/Lv or Armored Vehichles with the Walker ability may use the portals.


Infantry and LVs can always use them.  AV walkers can use them.

or

Infantry can always use them.  LV and AV walkers can use them.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:01 pm 
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The syntax of the sentence is pretty poor, but the meaning is supposed to be the same as the Eldar one;

Portals can only be used once per turn.

Only Infantry, Light Vehicles and Armoured Vehicles with the walker ability can use portals.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:24 pm 
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Quote: (zombocom @ Dec. 13 2009, 16:17 )

Quote: (mnb @ Dec. 13 2009, 03:23 )

i hate to bring in more possible changes, but there was mention a while back about the warbarque needing some changes. i don't agree but i thought i'd throw it out there in case someone has a good idea. i know adding an AA shot was suggested, which might be fun (not having to depend on the always broken pylon)

Most concern I've heard about the Warbarque is that it lacks flavour rather than being under or over powered. Given the number of changes we're suggesting making here already, such a flavour change can probably wait.

Lack of flavour? I think it is totally cool and fluffy. The Necrons have a solid link to Egyptian mythology, and the image of a god or god-king travelling to war in his great "chariot" seems very fitting to me. The stats aren't problematic either imho. Don't fix things that ain't broken.

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and i agree w/ you ares. i was only bringing it up because it was mentioned in another thread. since all the other changes are being discussed i thought i'd mention it. i don't personally have a problem w/ it, it has the most firepower of any necron unit (shooting-wise).
some people tought it was "vanilla" and needed something more.


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Oh, but that is Epic for you! It is a huge skimmer tank, with a transdimensional portal and particle beams, ridden by an ancient deathless horror with supreme commander, has living metal armour and thick rear armour, but this is somehow "vanilla" to some people?  :laugh: We need something special, not these bland excuses for units...  :p




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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 5:35 pm 
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Quote: (Ares @ Dec. 14 2009, 11:22 )

Oh, but that is Epic for you! It is a huge skimmer tank, with a transdimensional portal and particle beams, ridden by an ancient deathless horror with supreme commander, has living metal armour and thick rear armour, but this is somehow "vanilla" to some people?  :laugh: We need something special, not these bland excuses for units...  :p

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Yeah, I thought the same thing.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:59 pm 
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Oh I absolutely agree that there's nothing wrong with it, I was just reiterating the comments from the previous thread. The minutes as it were.

So I think we're agreed on 90% of the changes, we just need the AC to make a call on the Monolith and Wraith specifics.

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Okay, this is the weirdest Necron thread ever.  Agreement?  Resolution?  WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE!!?

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Quote: (zombocom @ Dec. 14 2009, 14:01 )

Only Infantry, Light Vehicles and Armoured Vehicles with the walker ability can use portals.

So... the antecedent for your prepositional phrase "with the walker ability" is still not clear.

Is it all LVs or only LVs with Walker?

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I think there is a comma between light vehicles and armored vehicles so it works like the eldar portals.

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Simply reverse the sentence:

Only Armoured Vehicles with the Walker ability , Light Vehicles and Infantry can use portals.

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Why is it the only one that can solve this problem in English is a native German? :D

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