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Author:  Lextar [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:35 am ]
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I started out with SM and they are still my favourite. But I also collect Orks, Tyranids, Chaos, Eldar and Tau. And to a lesser degree IG and Squats.

Do you ever find yourself wanting to do everything but just not enough time? How do you decide what to concentrate on?

My WoW account expires on the 13th March so that frees up some time. Although expecting my first baby in April. So a few weeks to concentrate on painting.

Things I'm working on or trying to

SM and Tau 40K. Been meaning to paint enough to start playing with wife.

Blood Angels Mini army - almost complete.

New Style Tyranids - been going for over a year now. Nowhere as many as Warmaster's lot, but I'm starting from infantry upwards.

Eldar Army - Firedragon troupe done, been meaning to finish off my Striking Scorpion Troupe and planning the Phoneix Lord. With the new models, tempted to do them too. Also want to do Aspect Warrior Altars.

Chaos - Four main chaos force done, but with other people doing Titans and floating cities, tempted to do my own. Need to do the Deamons for each force, floating cities for each, and then work on Iron ones and Black ones.

Ultra Space Marines - these are from like 20 years ago. Want to re do them and also build them a base.

Tau - Its only one squad at the mo, but dont really like working with the resin. Still wanting to build a Flating City for them.

Orks - same with USM, 20 years ago. Want to retouch these and finish off a Stomp Fest piece I started a year ago.

Other SM projects - Always wanted to do some Dark Angels models and with the new models released, ?even more so.

So anyone else wanting to do as much as I do?
Author:  Mojarn Piett [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:44 am ]
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Do you ever find yourself wanting to do everything but just not enough time?

Yes...

How do you decide what to concentrate on?

I don't. I get paralysed and accomplish nothing at all.  :(

I have a ton of Epic minis I haven't started painting yet: Chaos, SM, Eldar and Tyranids.

The work on my Squat army stopped just short of 10k points.

And I'd like to repaint my IG armour to new scheme.

My Black Templars army for 40k has been in the works for a few years now.

Then there's the Warlord army (Crusaders) waiting to get started as well as several Warmaster armies I plan to use to play Warhammer in 10mm. And I'd very much like to get Chronopia armmies before the minis disappear from the market completely.

Of course, I'm planning to start 6mm multipurpose WWII armies of Soviets, Finns, Germans, British and USA.  :O
Author:  Morg [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:08 pm ]
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I'd say every wargamer has these problems - so don't worry you're not alone  :;):  You know, there is a reason we collect so many lead - http://www.larryleadhead.org/bonus_car1.html :p

I always concentrate on the stuff for which I have players in my area plus that which my better half likes (which would be 6mm carthaginians and romans at the moment).
Author:  firestorm40k [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:47 pm ]
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I'm having to focus on finishing one army at a time. ?So far I've painted 3,300 points of Guard & 3,500 of Iron Hands marines. ?I'd like to expand both of these.

Then I've got 5000 points +++ of Orks to paint, which I'd like to make in to armies representing the normal Ork list, a Speed Freeks list, and an OGBM list.

Then there's Chaos - I'm currently doing Iron Warriors, but with the release of the Chaos stuff by SG, I'd like to buy a load and do Black Legion, Emperors Children, Death Guard, World Eaters, and Thousand Sons armies.

And after these, I'd like to do 'Nids, but really i'm waiting (hoping? ??? ) for the infantry to be re-released.  But before that I've got the minis to do a Genestealer Cult...

Plus, I've got the stuff to make a pretty decent AMTL list, and at least two more Marine armies.

The only way I can see of getting these done is to concentrate on one at a time. ?I've probably got enough to see me through for the next 20 years! :laugh: ?I've decided next year will be 'the Year of the Ork' so I'll focus on the THREE Ork armies - but I'll probably changed my mind/be distracted by something else by then... :;):
Author:  Moscovian [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:37 pm ]
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It appears to be a chronic condition amongst wargamers.  I have on my PRIORITY list of things to accomplish:
Model and paint the Tallarn armored division
Finish my Necron Aeonic Orb, Flayed Ones, and Wraiths.
Build from scratch my Dark Eldar army
Work on our Necron/Dark Eldar/Tallarn supplement

That doesn't include my Lugganath, Tau, Orks, etc... UGH!  I need a month to just climb into my basement and play with myself.  ???  Wait, I mean - nevermind.  :blush:
Author:  Otterman [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:02 pm ]
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As Morpheus says, "Time is always against us."
Author:  blackhorizon [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:05 pm ]
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I have a bunch of LotR laying around. But at the moment I am slowly painting BFG FW Tau and started a little on 'Project Egrimm'.
Author:  CyberShadow [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:25 pm ]
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I came to similar conclusions. I have found that the only way around this is to set myself a rules - I will only ever work on a maximum of two projects (on my assembly/paint station) at any points, and one of those must be my current force. In this case, it is Epic Genestealer Cult. This means that I have a bit of variety (40K Necrons are the other project currently), I must finish the alternative project before starting a new one (although it doesnt stop me buying, that increases my desire to move on) and hopefully at least I will have one force further along despite a load of random models.

Still, this is only partially working for me.  :(
Author:  blackhorizon [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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Buying: That's the problem!
I am low on money and only could afford the BFG Tau fleet by selling a whole bunch of 40k stuff.

The LotR backlog started when I was subscribed to BGiME.
Author:  firestorm40k [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:04 pm ]
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(CyberShadow @ Mar. 07 2007,14:25)
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I have found that the only way around this is to set myself a rules - I will only ever work on a maximum of two projects (on my assembly/paint station) at any points, and one of those must be my current force.

That's what I try to stick to: assembling/painting an Epic army while assembling/painting one for another range.

Rather tellingly, I usually tend to stick more to getting the Epic army done and often wander from the other...  plus I find myself wanting to do more 6mm armies than others...  :;):  :D
Author:  vanvlak [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:16 pm ]
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I've given up counting armies, I'm counting gaming systems now.
WHFB, WH40K, Epic, BFG, Inquisitor, Man O'War, Blood Bowl, Mordheim, Necromunda, Warmaster, Warmaster Ancients, Warhammer Ancients, DBA, Iron Stars, Aeronef...
Author:  nealhunt [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:32 pm ]
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In answer to the thread title, a most emphatic "Yes!"

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I found that the best way for me to get stuff done was to keep a set of figs out and work on them a bit at a time.

For example, keep about a dozen Battlewagons out, along with the paint pots for the intended color scheme.  One night, ink them.  Next night, paint the wheels black and do some highlighting.  Next night paint on checks and flames.  And so on, until it's done.  Then set out another set.

This also works really well for minis that are supposed to go together but are in different stages of painting.  You just start with the ones farthest behind and as they catch up to the others, you do them together to keep the overall look consistent.

Using this technique I completed ~7000 points of Bad Moons over the course of several months as well as other intermittent projects, like terrain.

Unfortunately, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I now have a 3 year old that is vastly more inquisitive than her older brother.  It is impossible to leave things out without mass destruction.  That means in order to work on anything I have to have enough time to set up, do the work, and tear everything down in a single session.  As a result my progress on modelling and painting has slowed to a crawl.


Another technique I found helpful as far as keeping focused is my "army plan."  I made a spreadsheet for each army that I intended to build - formations, units, points, total unit counts, total point cost, number of models on hand, number of models needed.

I track new model acquisitions on them.  Once I get close to having the models required for the list, I go through it and mark everything that needs painted by shading the boxes, clearing them as I get the models painted.

On the front page of the spreadsheet I have a list of the armies in progress in order that I want them completed.  I start with the top one and start painting according to whatever blocks of minis are convenient to work on.

Having the count of models needed is also very useful for perusing eBay.  It keeps me from buying stuff just because it's a good deal (except Orks, because I'm stupid for them) and keeps me acquiring things I actually want to include in an army.

I do occasionally decide that I want to shift to a new army as priority (like if I win a big auction with lots of cool pieces for it) but it still helps keep me focused.

Of course, I had to break Orks out into a completely separate spreadsheet because I have 9 armies just from them... :p
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:12 pm ]
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(nealhunt @ Mar. 07 2007,10:32)
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Another technique I found helpful as far as keeping focused is my "army plan." ?I made a spreadsheet for each army that I intended to build - formations, units, points, total unit counts, total point cost, number of models on hand, number of models needed.

A spreadsheet... what a brilliant idea! I already have a written inventory of how much I have and how many points it is (which has helped me from bidding on stuff I already have) and I have thought about putting that data on a spreadsheet, but I never thought of putting as much detail into it as you do. I'll have to give a try.  :cool:
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:07 pm ]
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(Lextar @ Mar. 07 2007,05:35)
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So anyone else wanting to do as much as I do?

A definitive YES!

I probably only have a small percentage of minis painted, but mostly everything is ready to be used in a game, albeit unpainted. I do try to stay focused on a small number of projects at one time. I feel that I can accomplish more this way. I don't have young children (or animals) to worry about, so I have the luxury of being able to leave things out half done.

To help me focus on what to paint, I've decided to see what needs to be painted for a theoretical tournament army. For example, I have one detachment of Hydras painted, but I might want to have two detachments ready for a tourney.

To give you an idea of what I'm currently working on:
I started painting my 20k Squat army (as seen on ToTW5)
Painting Ultramarines infantry
Basing IG, Ultras and some Eldar infantry
Terrain - well I'm not actually working on it , but it is on my workbench waiting for my attention  :D

What remains pretty much untouched painting-wise is 20k points of Chaos, 22k points of Orks and about 15k points of Eldar. As soon as the warm weather returns, I'm going to go on a primering spree so that at least my minis won't have to suffer the indignity anymore of being bare plastic/metal.

I have however purposely limited myself to armies that existed as of SM/TL. So, no Necrons, Dark Eldar, etc.
Author:  CyberShadow [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:41 pm ]
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(nealhunt @ Mar. 07 2007,15:32)
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Another technique I found helpful as far as keeping focused is my "army plan." ?I made a spreadsheet for each army that I intended to build - formations, units, points, total unit counts, total point cost, number of models on hand, number of models needed.

I track new model acquisitions on them. ?Once I get close to having the models required for the list, I go through it and mark everything that needs painted by shading the boxes, clearing them as I get the models painted.

On the front page of the spreadsheet I have a list of the armies in progress in order that I want them completed. ?I start with the top one and start painting according to whatever blocks of minis are convenient to work on.

Wow. I thought that I was the only wargame accountant! It is good to know that I am in good company. However, I do trump that... I have put together an Access database which holds details of the games that I 'collect', organised into four categories of priorities, with a related table of the forces for each game, organised into main and support forces!  :blush:

Unfortunately, as I've mentioned elsewhere, I now have a 3 year old that is vastly more inquisitive than her older brother.  It is impossible to leave things out without mass destruction.  That means in order to work on anything I have to have enough time to set up, do the work, and tear everything down in a single session.  As a result my progress on modelling and painting has slowed to a crawl.

No children, but we do have a lack of space and are still moving in, so I have a 'paint tray'. A cheap tray with an edge (to stop spills) that has my current projects and the necessary paints. At the end of the session, the whole lot just gets put on top of the wardrobe - and I dont even need to touch the wet paint.
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