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Author:  Vermis [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:10 am ]
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Well, here's photos of the heirodule conversion, nestled among a few trademark half-started conversions and sculpts.

When Gun_Hit's conversion topic was recently bumped (albeit with bad news :(), it zapped me with enough inspiration to get up and try something myself.
I've decided this first one will be a gift for a friend, to help make up for the fact I never sculpted him his biotitan; but now that I've got one under my belt, I figure I might try whipping up a tutorial - but rest assured it should be a lot quicker and easier when I make the process less complicated! :D
There's a real mishmash of different putties in there. ?I started it the day before I got my first lot of procreate in the mail, and that caused me to carry out some mixing experiments.





Author:  consectari [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:51 am ]
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Your skills are simply amazing.  Both the heirodule & the 'thrope are outstanding.

So, how about sculpting some necrons?

Author:  iblisdrax [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:10 am ]
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Nice work!  :)


ib

Author:  Chroma [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:22 am ]
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Fantastic!  I wish I could sculpt like that!  

I'm happy with my Termagant based Hierodules/Trygons, but yours are amazing!

Author:  mageboltrat [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:51 am ]
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That is really cool. I will have to have a go making some.. what have you done with the claws? I can see some putty on there




Author:  Evil and Chaos [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 4:38 am ]
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Truly superb!

Author:  Mojarn Piett [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:41 am ]
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I see Drasannar has some competition.  :O

Author:  Markconz [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:22 am ]
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Nice work!!

Author:  vanvlak [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:41 am ]
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Good grief - VERY nice!  :D  :D  :D  :D

Author:  ragnarok [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:09 am ]
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Very nice stuff.  Is the tyranid guard based on the epic zonathrope model?

If so I'll be keeping an eye on his development to see what you do.  I do stuck at the same stage.

Author:  firestorm40k [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:51 am ]
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Vermis, you make me sick... with envy! :p  :;): :laugh:

Seriously, outstanding work all round.

Now please post a how-to guide for sculpting/casting (pretty, pretty please!) :D

Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:09 pm ]
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Well done, Vermis.

Author:  Vermis [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:34 pm ]
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Thank you all! :D ?I have to admit that a lot of the modifications are probably unnecessary and you could definitely get away without shortening the tail, legs and waist, or lengthening the dorsal carapace.

Con: watch this space. :;):

Mageboltrat: I added forearm plates as with the old monstrous talons, which caused me a few problems. ?Then I noticed the new talons don't have them, so I won't be trying them again!
The plates over the actual talon were a lot easier - I think partly due to the putty mix (it's 2:1:1 apoxie sculpt, brown stuff and procreate, FYI. ?It worked well for me, but most putties or mixes that hold decent edges should work okay) and the fact I left it to firm up for about half an hour.
I rolled it into four roughly equal, roughly conical pieces about 2/3rds the length of the talon. ?I pushed each piece onto a talon, pressed it all around to shape and anchor it, and smoothed it into a vaguely semicircular cross-section (the pro-c and firmness helped a lot with smoothing, IMO). ?Then I took a sharp hobby knife and carefully cut away the excess (again, firmness helped :;): ) at the base, 2/3 of the distance to the tip, and in curving lines just above the line of the 'dimple' in the side.
I retouched any irregularities that cutting caused, and pushed both ends of the putty into v-shapes. ?Then I sculpted the edges of the individual plates, pushing the putty in and back to create eight diagonal ridges on one side (my favourite tool has a leaf-shaped head, which made the curves a little easier). ?Then I flipped the talon over and did the same, making sure the lines met up in the middle. ?After this the whole thing needed a little smoothing and pointing.
Lastly, the corners of the plates had strange spoon-shapes instead of sharp corners and overlaps, thanks to the way I pushed in the ridges. ?I let the putty cure fully and cut them away, leaving v-shapes for the overlaps. ?You can see where I wasn't completely accurate in photo 03.

That was a bit exhaustive! ?But hopefully I explained it okay, and a tutorial with photos should make it easier.
One thing: maybe I'm being patronising and offending you all (I don't mean to!), but when I say that I push and smooth the putty etc., I don't mean in long continuous movements. ?Rather in small, quick increments, so I can fix anything before it goes wrong, or too wrong. ?And also so that the putty has less chance to stick to the tool.

Ragnarok: Yup! ?That's another little tutorial that I shelved a long time ago, because I didn't have the digital camera that I thought I needed. ?I was going to try out my own pre-4th-ed-40K design (which you can see elsewhere in the HF Atropos folder), but I'll probably make it up like the new guard minis. ?Except upright.

Firestorm: Sculpting - if I can! ?Casting - there are a lot of others who know a lot more about that than me. :D ?On the casting yahoogroup, e.g.





Author:  Otterman [ Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:32 pm ]
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Keep me in mind if you want some resin casting done.

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