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[EA] My Epic Starter Set
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Author:  Seelenhaendler [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  [EA] My Epic Starter Set

Below you can find some pics of the ‘Epic Starter Set’ I have been putting together.
Enjoy!

The set contains:
• Imperial Guard Force
. o Tank Company
. o Storm Trooper Platoon incl. Valkyries
• Eldar Force
. o Aspect Warrior Host incl. Autarch
. o Eldar Guardian Host incl. Weapon Platforms and Wraithguard
. o Falcon Troupe
• Rulebook
• Mission objectives
• Terrain
• Blast Markers
• Dice

The forces are about 1000 points each and have been chosen with non-competitive reasons in mind.
How would you expand the forces to 1500 and 2000 points if the goal was to create balanced forces that ensure interesting games?

Attachments:
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File comment: Mission Objectives
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File comment: Starter Set Overview
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Author:  Seelenhaendler [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:27 am ]
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Some shots of the Eldar in action

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Author:  Seelenhaendler [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:29 am ]
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Some shots of the Imperial Guard in action

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sScene Leman Russ.JPG
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Author:  The Bissler [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:31 am ]
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I really like those blast markers! And I must get around to buying those objective markers!

Author:  moredakka [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:21 am ]
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Nice stuff sir, good start.

Author:  Legion 4 [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:14 pm ]
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Yes ... good start !

Author:  caregadras [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:16 pm ]
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Everything is Great Painted!! The Blast markers... the better I've seen! With the ball of fire!
Epic!!

Author:  madd0ct0r [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [EA] My Epic Starter Set

I'd give the IG a superhaevy tank (if you want to introduce WE) and troops. lots of troops. Get a horde down!

Author:  mordoten [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:57 pm ]
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So whats the idea with this? Is it a one off thing or something you plan to do more of and sell to new players? I really like it btw!!

Author:  Largo_W [ Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:32 pm ]
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Nice set, but somehow a bit pricey for a starter kit. Nice idea on the trees!
Not counting the Forgeworld terrain, the regular D6, palm trees (they seem to be OOP) or blast markers this set would be 218.50 € (Germany) or 159.75 GBP via GWs website. Of course, you could get all this via ebay or marketplaces. It just seems.. phew. Much cash.
I am not well versed in eldar, so I will only comment the guard list.
Valk+Stormtroopers and Russes are the two main formations ANY good Imperial Steellegion list should field in my opinion. The Russ are an hard BTS and the Stormtroopers are one of the most versataile formations guard can muster. For 2000 points I would add a mobile regimental command for getting the supreme commander, first. Next step would be getting artillery, aircraft then anti-war engine stuff. In that order. That will not fit in 2K, so...
Tank Comp
Valk + Stormtroopers
Reg HQ
Manticore Battery (get them from FW)
Thunderbolts
Sentinels
->2000
For 3K add the Super Heavy formation and deploy only Shadowswords. After that adjust and fine-tune the list to the prefered playstyle. You may drop the Sentinels, but other than that, this would be my core for nearly every Guard list.

PS: I am no big fan of huge guard infantry mobs.

Author:  Seelenhaendler [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:34 am ]
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@all: Thanks for the nice feedback!

mordoten wrote:
So whats the idea with this? Is it a one off thing or something you plan to do more of and sell to new players?

My mates and I wanted to try out a new game with a different scale (we usually play 28mm), so I created this 2 player set. It's definitely a one off thing but I would like to add to it in the future.

Largo_W wrote:
Nice set, but somehow a bit pricey for a starter kit. Nice idea on the trees!
Not counting the Forgeworld terrain, the regular D6, palm trees (they seem to be OOP) or blast markers this set would be 218.50 € (Germany) or 159.75 GBP via GWs website. Of course, you could get all this via ebay or marketplaces. It just seems.. phew. Much cash.
I am not well versed in eldar, so I will only comment the guard list.
Valk+Stormtroopers and Russes are the two main formations ANY good Imperial Steellegion list should field in my opinion. The Russ are an hard BTS and the Stormtroopers are one of the most versataile formations guard can muster. For 2000 points I would add a mobile regimental command for getting the supreme commander, first. Next step would be getting artillery, aircraft then anti-war engine stuff. In that order. That will not fit in 2K, so...
Tank Comp
Valk + Stormtroopers
Reg HQ
Manticore Battery (get them from FW)
Thunderbolts
Sentinels
->2000
For 3K add the Super Heavy formation and deploy only Shadowswords. After that adjust and fine-tune the list to the prefered playstyle. You may drop the Sentinels, but other than that, this would be my core for nearly every Guard list.

PS: I am no big fan of huge guard infantry mobs.

Thanks for the feedback!
The price for the set was secondary. I am a slow painter so when I paint something I really need to like it.
That was also the reason for the composition of the forces. I picked what I liked and what was reasonably quick to paint. At least what I thought would be... :D

I like your recommendations.
A mobile infantry platoon, some kind of artillery and some sentinels to buff the number of formations is definitely the right way forward. The flying stuff will have to wait until 3000 points though.
What are your thoughts on Basilisks? They look really powerful.

The most important thing is that both forces are balanced in respect to each other and that they provide an interesting play experience. Therefore some ideas on the Eldar would be appreciated.
Thx!

Author:  Largo_W [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [EA] My Epic Starter Set

Basilisks are the perfect choice for the "big formation", in smaller groups I prefer the Manticore. The reason: its a 3ish formation. 3ish formations break rather easily, so most of your games the artillery will fire at most two times. Therefore "hit 'em hard, hit 'em fast" - Manticores. In the big formation the additional blast marker and disrupt is irrelevant vs the fact that you can fire huge blasts (9P) every round.
If you don't take flights, you will need at least one flak platoon. Which has it's pros and cons, but on 3K I would try to squeeze at meast one in.

Author:  Nitpick [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 11:51 am ]
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Nice stuff. I keep thinking of severly overfried eggs looking at those blast markers though. Agree on the Manticores. Good for activations too.

Author:  madd0ct0r [ Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [EA] My Epic Starter Set

maybe expand the eldar with shining spears? they excel in the classic 2 activation thump that marks pointy ear play.

or just buy 1000pts of orks :)

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