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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:55 pm 
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Just thought I'd post a few photos (not very good ones, (cheap, auto focusing digital cameras stink IMO, I miss cameras where I was allowed to focus them myself!)) of one of the 'armies' I've been working on. I unexpectedly received a bunch of the old plastic GW troopers in an ebay win, and one thing led to another.
Now, the photos aren't of how the 'squads' are necessarily arranged in their 'detachments' (I play Epic 40k at the moment) but were just piled on the table to take photos.
When painting an 'army' I try to stick to painting the infantry first, then move on to the armor/cav stuff, to try and stay motivated and focused and actually get a playable army painted and finished.


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 Post subject: Re: westsides cadian-types
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:01 pm 
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Here's closeup photos of the command stands and troops and some 'storm trropers'. They all need some apc's and valkyries, etc., but I haven't got around to that yet.
I used a 'graver' and carved out the flag bearer from a gw greatcoat wearing character.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:06 pm 
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Here's some heavy weapon squads, 'morale support', and snipers...


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 Post subject: Re: westsides cadian-types
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:10 pm 
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After I did the infantry I started on the armor, I'm kinda using the armor organization charts from those forgeworld armor books as a guide (at least for the types and composition of the force I'm painting up, if not exactly what I will use in a game). I really love the GW models from the epic 40k era, the casts are crisp, the models are visually complex, easy to paint, and you can mix and swap the bits, I seriously feel they are the coolest commercial 6mm models ever.


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:13 pm 
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And last (for now) photos how it all looks from gaming distance...


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 Post subject: Re: westsides cadian-types
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:58 pm 
The camo on that tank is really neat!


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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:09 pm 
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Agreed. It actually looks like miniature camo, as opposed to my giant swathes of color.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:24 pm 
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I like that Stormtrooper Russ, how did you paint that?

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:34 pm 
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The russ camo is copied from some of the camo patterns the French used on their pre-WWII Char B tanks. I really like the WWI vibe of the IG so look to old prints for inspiration.
The 'stormtrooper' russ was painted gretchen green then a 50% devlan mud/water wash followed with a 25% thraka green/water wash. Then I toned it all down with a 25 to 50% black/water wash. In person it looks a little fluorescent (depending on the lighting in the room) and I'm not sure I'm 100% happy with it, wish I could find a wash that was more flat or olive in tone rather than so bright. The minor details are fortress grey.
Everything I've painted first gets airbrushed flat white, then gets air brushed it's base coat. I use citadel paints (except for the white base). To use the citadel paints in the air brush I thin them with isopropyl alcohol. I like using the citadel in the airbrush because then when I'm painting if I need to touch up with a brush everything matches. Pretty much everything gets washed with devlan mud and sometimes with badab black wash, always cut with water about 50%. I try to limit my color pallet to three to four base colors per troop type to maintain unity and prevent things from looking too 'busy'.
Some of the infantry was washed without the wash being 'cut' and I feel it turned out, i feel, too muddy. I'd rather wash twice, then just once and have it turn out too 'muddy'.
I have never painted this small of a scale before so any tips are appreciated.
I feel I might be getting too detailed, as from gaming distance none of the detail is very noticable and perhaps it is more important game wise to have the stands clearly identifiable rather than heavily detailed.
I'm trying to go for both concepts in my painting.
When I started back up gaming after about a 20 year absence I really did not want to paint 28mm+ details anymore, not to mention I'd rather play a more tactical level game rather than a individual soldier level skirmish games. Epic really caught my attention because about a year or two ago I started reading the Black Library novels and I had memories of wanting the epic scale titans from the 80's-90's that I used to see in the hobby stores.


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 Post subject: Re: westsides cadian-types
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 11:59 am 
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WestSide wrote:
Just thought I'd post a few photos (not very good ones, (cheap, auto focusing digital cameras stink IMO, I miss cameras where I was allowed to focus them myself!)) of one of the 'armies' I've been working on. I unexpectedly received a bunch of the old plastic GW troopers in an ebay win, and one thing led to another.
Now, the photos aren't of how the 'squads' are necessarily arranged in their 'detachments' (I play Epic 40k at the moment) but were just piled on the table to take photos.
When painting an 'army' I try to stick to painting the infantry first, then move on to the armor/cav stuff, to try and stay motivated and focused and actually get a playable army painted and finished.


Its not just me then, I to paint the infantry first, as you have said i would never get anything finished otherwise ;)

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:49 pm 
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Looks good !! Camo is always a good thing !!! ;)

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:19 pm 
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Those camo is really really nice indeed


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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:57 pm 
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Hey!! My Cadian army is very similar to yours (DRM infantry) :o , very good Leman Russ BTW.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:38 am 
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this thread title keeps setting off 'the prince of bel-air' in my head.

I do like the tank camo - how confusing does it get when 8 are ranked up though?


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 Post subject: Re: westsides cadian-types
PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 2:31 pm 
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The confusion is reduced because out of each 'grouping/squad' of russes the camo pattern has a variation.

One group has the atypical beige and dark green 'Cadian' pattern, one group has the black outlined dk.green, brown, beige pattern (as seen in photos in thread), finally the last grouping in this army has the more generic olive green scheme (called stormtrooper camo in thread)
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Each group also has a tank with the Epic 40k 3rd ed. model with re-enforced-extra armor over the rear of the tracks (so they can serve a command/hq function if need be in 3rd ed. which I play at the moment)

Finally one tank, which I would use as a detachment command in 3rd ed. features a vanquisher turret as well as the extra armor.

Also, will probably paint up a tank in a black scheme for a Commissar option.
Thinking also about getting a hair brush with thin black bristles and using the bristles to add differing number of antenna to create further visual differentation cues.

Basically, as it stands now the russ armor for this IG army is organizationally based on 'Emperor's Hammer" tank company as depicted in the Forgeworld Imperial Armor books rather than off a E:A list or E40k 3rd. detachment. That was basically done to keep options open, and keep things 'fluffy'.


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