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Author:  Tas [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 5:00 am ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
Hi Guys,

I want to try something a bit different on my next piece, a Mk1 Reaver Titan I recently acquired which I want to do in a Knight Templar type style.

To that end I want to do REALLY shiny sections like plate armour. ?I saw something awhile ago on the www (which I cant find anymore) on how to make sections look like polished metal vice just silver.

As I recall, it was something like:
*Undercoat White
*Base Coat in Chainmail
*Black ink
*Highlight in Mithril silver

It sounded quite different to the usual black base with drybrushed silver, and was wondering what advice you all had to try and get this effect before I start.

Cheers
Tas
Author:  Jimbo [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
it depends on how shiny is shiny

I was recently working on my Grey Knights and they were too shiny for me

Original

Black undercoat
Base coat Chainmail
Wash of thinned blue ink
Highlight Mithril

http://www.ifelix.co.uk/jimbo_dh_04.html has more details



I am now going for a slightly less shiny appearance

Black undercoat
Base coat Boltgun Metal
Wash of thinned blue ink
Highlight Mithril

picture to follow...
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
My epic Grey Knight Termies were painted in a very similar fashion:
White undercoat, mithril basecoat, blue wash, very thin black wash, mithril highlights.

Grey knights

I don't think it's too shiny but that could be because of the smaller scale of those miniatures where a sharp contrast works very well. I'd probably give it a go at some larger surfaces first before painting the actual model to see what works best.

Cheers!
Author:  TuffSkull [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
Quote (Warmaster Nice @ 07 2004 Jan.,09:56)
My epic Grey Knight Termies were painted in a very similar fashion:
White undercoat, mithril basecoat, blue wash, very thin black wash, mithril highlights.

I was about to say Never paint mettalics over white when I read this post - seeing as Warmaster's silver is one I'm trying to emulate, I'll withdraw that before starting.

However, I sill still suggest you try working over a medium grey basecoat. The trick to get a really shiny look is to get good definition between your highlights & shades - a thin black wash can be very usefule here (or even better, if you happen to have it, Thinned "Armour wash" from the OLD paint range).
Author:  vanvlak [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
Quote (TuffSkull @ 07 2004 Jan.,10:27)
I was about to say Never paint mettalics over white when I read this post - seeing as Warmaster's silver is one I'm trying to emulate, I'll withdraw that before starting.

However, I sill still suggest you try working over a medium grey basecoat. The trick to get a really shiny look is to get good definition between your highlights & shades - a thin black wash can be very usefule here (or even better, if you happen to have it, Thinned "Armour wash" from the OLD paint range).

Tuffskull beat me to it, but I tried a light grey undercoat with chainmail over it and it is shiny - I usually favour a few patches of brass here and there, and chestnut or flesh wash, which gives a different look entirely; blue or blackwash should do well in your case.
Author:  Tas [ Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
Thanks very much for the replies and suggestions.

The grey u/coat sounds like the best compromise for my purposes I think.  Regardless, I'll be having some practice runs while I do the titan modelling, before I put brush to final product.

Cheers
Tas
Author:  nealhunt [ Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:07 am ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
The trick to get a really shiny look is to get good definition between your highlights & shades - a thin black wash can be very usefule here


I have several friends who use oil paints for their washes. ?They thin the paint heavily with thinner. ?It gives a wash with a lower surface tension than water (or, obviously, any sort of water-based paint). ?Because of that, the capillary action of the detail work really draws in the thinned paint and makes a very stark and dramatic line around any detail.

I haven't tried it, but I have a feeling the Tamiya paints with their thinner would perform similarly.
Author:  TuffSkull [ Thu Jan 08, 2004 12:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Painting REALLY shiny silver
Quote (nealhunt @ 08 2004 Jan.,00:07)
I have several friends who use oil paints for their washes. ?They thin the paint heavily with thinner. ?It gives a wash with a lower surface tension than water (or, obviously, any sort of water-based paint). ?Because of that, the capillary action of the detail work really draws in the thinned paint and makes a very stark and dramatic line around any detail.

I haven't tried it, but I have a feeling the Tamiya paints with their thinner would perform similarly.

Indeed i have tried using such a technique. However, it can make it difficult to paint details in water based acrylics on top of such as wash without many hours of drying and/or sealant.

I do, however, reccommend adding a small drop of washing up liquid if you're making your own washes from normal paint. It breaks the surface tension of the wash & increases flow. However, too much will result in a really shiny wash (come to think of it, in this case that might be a good thing :-: !)
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