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Author:  axiom [ Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Quick disclaimer - this is probably not the right forum, but I couldn't see where better to put this topic - feel free to move it!

Hi all, I'm a big Eldar fan and have spent a lot of time (too much time?) over the last 2 years trying to definitively catalogue GW's Eldar minis in all scales.

I have a rudimentary knowledge of Epic models and am looking for assistance in refining and improving the catalogue. Only 10 minutes ago, for example, I discovered that the metal Nightwings come in two varieties (with and without rocket pods). If anyone would like to help out, I would be extremely grateful of your assistance and will happily receive any additional knowledge.

I could also do with some help on contents of boxed sets, alternate version of models etc. Here's my rough first pass at the Space Marine era figures.

Space Marine
Phantom Titan
- Farseer Head
- Head 1
- Head 2
- Lascannon wing
- Multi launcher wing
- Legs
- Foot
- Shoulder guard 1
- Shoulder guard 2
- Torso
- Heat lance
- Psycannon
- Pulse laser
- D-cannon
- V-cannon
- Powerfist
Revenant Scout Titan
- Pulse laser
- Body
- Leg joint
- Left leg
- Right leg
Tempest Grav-tank
- Chassis
- Turret
Eldar Legion box
- Guardians
- Falcons
Eldar Warhost box
Epic Stompers box
- Plastic Dreadnoughts
Epic Armies Battle Force
Epic Armies Attack Force
Epic Armies War Horde
Firegale Knight 1
Firegale Knight 2
Firegale Knight 3
Firegale Knight 4
Firegale Knight 5
Bright Stallion Knight 1
Bright Stallion Knight 2
Towering Destroyer Knight 1
Towering Destroyer Knight 2
Wave Serpent
- Hull
- Warp Energy Generator
Doom Weaver
- Hull
- Web Spinner
Deathstalker
- Hull
- Prism Cannon
Warp Hunter
Firestorm v1
Nightwing v1
War Walker v1
War Walker v2
Avatar v1
Avatar v2
Metal Guardian Leader
Metal Guardian
Metal Heavy Weapons Trooper
Grav platform and Crew
Lascannon grav platform
Spotter
Gunner
War-Cry Dreadnought
War-Demon Dreadnought
Banshee Dreadnought
Spirit Warrior
Jetbike Guardian

If you can help out, drop me a PM and I can email my excel file of the the rest of the different eras.

Many thanks!
Author:  Dwarf Supreme [ Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Stuff of Legends http://www.solegends.com/citadel/index.htm should be helpful, although you need to check through each individual catalogue.

EpiCollector http://epicollector.galactic-intrigue.com/ is also very helpful, but it's not as complete as SoL.
Author:  axiom [ Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Great - yeah SOLegends has long been a helpful resource and I've plundered it many times. I wasn't aware of epicollector though - I'll check it out. Thanks!
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Also, check out the Collectimng Citadel Miniatures Site. Not exactly exhaustive on Epic, but there's a few good pix in there (probably L4s stuff I'll bet!).
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Also remember to add the unreleased so called "X-vehicles", from the late TL era. This includes early Eldar aircraft, updated grav tanks and also the exodite models.
Author:  zap123 [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:12 pm ]
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The "Farseer" head is really the Warlock Titan head. There were 3 versions of War Walker (early 1 piece short barrels, the egg on legs, then the 2 piece modern looking version). Also the Tempest had a separate shuriken cannon turret, and the Mk1 Firestorm was 2 parts.

The Warhost box had - Eldar Guardians (lasgun), Guardian with Lascannon, Guardian with targetter, Guardian with banner, Warlock, Exarch, Scout (Pathfinder these days), Dark Reaper, Fire Dragon, Striking Scorpion, Howling Banshee, Swooping Hawk, Dire Avenger, Harlequinn, Wraithguard, Jet bike, Vyper, Grav platform with lascannon, Grav platform with Vibrocannon. I think that's it....
Author:  axiom [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Warmaster Nice wrote:
Also remember to add the unreleased so called "X-vehicles", from the late TL era. This includes early Eldar aircraft, updated grav tanks and also the exodite models.


Indeed, I have all of those apart from the Deathspinner or Farseer grav tank (I've seen it referred to as both). Do you know of any other unreleased / limited release Eldar figures?

zap123 wrote:
The "Farseer" head is really the Warlock Titan head. There were 3 versions of War Walker (early 1 piece short barrels, the egg on legs, then the 2 piece modern looking version). Also the Tempest had a separate shuriken cannon turret, and the Mk1 Firestorm was 2 parts.

The Warhost box had - Eldar Guardians (lasgun), Guardian with Lascannon, Guardian with targetter, Guardian with banner, Warlock, Exarch, Scout (Pathfinder these days), Dark Reaper, Fire Dragon, Striking Scorpion, Howling Banshee, Swooping Hawk, Dire Avenger, Harlequinn, Wraithguard, Jet bike, Vyper, Grav platform with lascannon, Grav platform with Vibrocannon. I think that's it....


That's extremely useful - thanks very much for listing those out. The only reason I referred to the 'Farseer' head on the titan is that is what it was called when first released. It didn't become a Warlock Class titan until a little bit later :)
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
zap123 wrote:
There were 3 versions of War Walker (early 1 piece short barrels, the egg on legs, then the 2 piece modern looking version).
I think there are four versions of this model?

SM2 - Cockpit looked like a little egg-shaped pod
TL - Looked like the WH40k 2Ed War Walker, came on a 25mm slottabase
E40k - Newer style, came with three parts each (the legs, the cockpit/weapons and a fin at the back that looked accordion-like)
EA - Remoulding of the E40k version I beleive, mostly lost the "accordion" rear fin.

There were also a number of variant parts for the E40k version - different weapon options, and possibly different legs too I think.
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Also, there have been four versions of the Avatar:

SM2 - Arms and legs outstretched, spear
TL - Looked like the WH40k 2Ed avatar, striding forward and holding sword high in the air, came tabbed for a slottabase
E40k - Smallest of them all, it has a dynamic pose where it's leaning into a charge and is waving a more triangular sword.
EA - Latest version, wielding a spear again. Can be found in the Court Of The Young King blister on the SG website.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:03 pm ]
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Link of all my finished Eldar ... a few are conversions or not G/W ... But most are, including a few very rare limited releases ... hope that helps ... http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/23 ... c%20Eldar/ Exodites(and some non-Eldar) http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a53/23 ... %20ARCRFT/ Avatars - I used them for Statues ... they was too bif for my tastes - http://s48.photobucket.com/albums/f248/ ... /?start=20 Nice models none-the-less ...
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:57 pm ]
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This is the TL Av the Major mentioned ... on eBay, BTW ... http://cgi.ebay.com/Epic-Eldar-Avatar-/ ... 2a08f573f6 The size of a 40K model !!
Author:  Warmaster Nice [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Although I've never had any confirmation on this I also suspect theere may have been a Metal prototype of the Mk1 plastic falcon. There's a picture from 1st ed. Codex Titanicus (I think) that has some falcons in it. The angle of the rear part of the body looks a bit weird, as does the "lance" weapon. It sort of makes sense though, as a lot of other early stuff had metal versions done for in-house playtesting (Prototype Warlord titan, Space Marine infantry and vehicles, eldar and ork infantry (BTW I suspect the same thing with the Battlewagon), untill production plastics were ready.
Author:  Legion 4 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Yes ... they made proto-type metal Falcons, Ork BattleWagons & Orks even ... See the back of W/D 116 ... I think Doug/DRM has some ... :D L4
Author:  Major_Gilbear [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Off-topic maybe, but I'd love to see pix of those prototypes! (although I've seen the Warlord v1a before).
Author:  Oberst Lynild [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Help Cataloging Epic Eldar Needed
Legion 4 wrote:
Yes ... they made proto-type metal Falcons, Ork BattleWagons & Orks even ... See the back of W/D 116 ... I think Doug/DRM has some ... :D L4


There sure as hell isn't any falcons on the back of WD 116, oh wait maybe they are lurking in the caves behind the gnasha gargant, waiting to pop out and blast away at those red goes fasta dreadnoughts - sneaky panzee gitz ;D

On-topic: If anyone has an old farseer falcon lying about collecting dust, do not hesitate to drop me a pm - I'm very much in the market for one of those ;)
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