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| Author: | Otterman [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:26 pm ] |
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One of the considerations for my next project, or next one-third of a project considering that I multitask, is the Krieg Centaur. Why? It's a cheap kit to buy. The small size will make for a cheap investment cast, mold, and resin usage. People, especially people named Legion 4, like it. Krieg are always popular. And now, for the problems. It's small, which means it won't have lots of neat detail to paint. That may be a benefit, considering how many of these things will be needed for a right and proper Krieg force. It has those annoying cross-beams on the top. That means they will have to be ignored, or done as an extra piece. That extra piece will be mighty hard since it's so small. They tend to have heavy stubbers, which are itty bitty at 6mm scale. That means they will either be left off, or grossly exaggerated. The dozer blade on the front will have to be smushed into the chassis, or made into a separate part. The grenadier variant has to be addressed. So, I see a few ways of doing this. A) 1) The Centaur is a single piece model, open top, no roll bar, no stubber, dozer blade smushed into chassis. 2) The Grenadier flavor is a single piece model, half closed top, possible pintle stubber, wire cutter blade smushed into chassis. This plan can be done with 2 parts. It can be done faster than part B). B) 1) Both variants have a common chassis, open top, no roll bar, no stubber, no front thingy. There are mounting holes or slot for front thingy. 2) The Grenadier flavor has an inset that half-closes the top, with possible pintle stubber. 3) There will be a dozer blade and a wire cutter blade piece available for the front mounting hole/slot. This plan can be done with 4 parts. It makes my model nipples perky, but it seems a little insane, and insane plans tend to not be done. It does offer the most fleixbility... for a tiny support vehicle! The thought of casting this plan in resin troubles me. |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
These thoughts imply that the Baran siegemaster metal siegfried and artillery tractor aren't acceptable proxies. |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
I'd probably go with A2 and forget the rest. Oh, and I'd make a Gorgon that wasn't rubbish (Like mine is). |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
And looking at Reaver's universal carrier (from the What Are You Working On Now topic), I forgot the topic of stowage - include in the design, or left bare? And I could do a thick stubber barrel like he did. Need to be mindful to put it on the mold split plane. |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:42 pm ] |
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 25 Sep. 2008, 15:35 ) I'd probably go with A2 and forget the rest. Oh, and I'd make a Gorgon that wasn't rubbish (Like mine is). So this Gorgon thing, is it cheap like the Grenadier Centaur?  I note that IA5 has snazzy computer drawings of it, I wonder what file format they're in? |
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| Author: | Warmaster Nice [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
I say fo for a single piece model. Screw the crossbeams: They're easily made from a few strips of plastic. The stubber is trickier. Even if it is exaggerated in size it will make a good place for potential airbubbles in production casts. Either way I say go for it  Gorgon: Drool   ...Now if only Tom would get those EW field artillery pieces restocked...  |
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Thu Sep 25, 2008 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
Quote: (Otterman @ 25 Sep. 2008, 21:42 ) Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 25 Sep. 2008, 15:35 ) I'd probably go with A2 and forget the rest. Oh, and I'd make a Gorgon that wasn't rubbish (Like mine is). So this Gorgon thing, is it cheap like the Grenadier Centaur? It's obtainable, I'd say. I note that IA5 has snazzy computer drawings of it, I wonder what file format they're in? In a file format designed for rapid prototyping actually, as it was an abandoned experiment. It's not designed for 6mm production though :-/ |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 25 Sep. 2008, 16:28 ) It's not designed for 6mm production though :-/ I can handle that part. |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
Hey who cares what this Legion 4 guy wants !  Oh ... wait  ...  Any way I'll be glad whatever you guyz come up with ! But A2 seems the easiest and will produce a usable model. The stubbers can be made with plastic rod & sprue ... They might be tough for you to mold ...
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:33 am ] |
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Quote: (Evil and Chaos @ 25 Sep. 2008, 21:35 ) Oh, and I'd make a Gorgon that wasn't rubbish (Like mine is). Rubbish !?  I think not !  
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| Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
It can be done better ; It will be done better, one day! I'd leave off the stowage, nothing annoys me more than stowage on 6mm tanks looking identical on every single tank. Okay, maybe the credit crunch, but stowage on 6mm tanks comes a close second. |
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| Author: | Otterman [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
It's resolved then: no identical credit crunch on all of the tanks. |
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| Author: | Legion 4 [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
Well if/when another version of the Gorgon is made ... I'll require another platoon. And probably 6-9 Centaurs ... You boyz work out the details ... I'll be at the O-Club if you need me ... 
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| Author: | Vaaish [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
I'm tempted to work up a gorgon or a macharius as a side project for when I need a break from painting but I'm debating if I should do it in 3d for printing or old fashioned scratchbuild. I'm also of the opinion that unless a variety of options are included, stowage should be left for after the model is cast. |
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| Author: | Bunny [ Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Krieg Centaur thoughts |
Hi Otterman, I'd be up for that, the more variety i can get to my Guards the better! How is the new CI coming along, can't find any pics but have found words? Bunny |
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