I agree with the brotherhood, No 1 is a standout winner.

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Not necessarily going with either, but there was a call for some consideration of splitting the carapace.
The first one is much closer to Reaver carapace - just without the weapon in the middle. The second is not nice .

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Only going from feel but not keen on either of the support misseles...or either ideas for splitting carapace i'm afraid!
What if the carapace wasn't split (with a gap) but divided into two distinct parts like the beetleback?
Perhaps the missiles could be more akin to hunter killers or deathstrikes? You can see what a modern day HK looks like in epic scale by taking a look at my deathstrike conversions on the blog.
Price seems reasonable to me.
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Number 2 looks like the sainsburies roof in plymouth.

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Hee hee! The one near me has a similar one too!

JonLuke: just a thought, if you didn't end up going with option one's cutout look, could the existing carapace maybe be curved in that area, but without making a cut?  Maybe just contoured down slightly, so the front would stay as it is, but with the back part curving down into a central recess?  Just a thought.

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Not too keen on either of the split roof versions. To get a more squareish Warlord look I still think the best course of action is to upsize or rework the two armor pieces that house the carapace weapon mounts.
Number 2 support missile looks cool.

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The shoulder mounts are gonna be looked at next. just making the mechanics that go inside so weapons can actually be glued there.

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AMTL and Guard lists.

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I'm not totally sold on the design aesthetics but if it was at a £20-30 price point I'd likely pick one up. £35-50 leaves me thinking I'll probably wait for the Forge World version instead, sorry Johnluke.

Are you sure you're going to make back enough to pay for the presumably rather expensive costs of having such a large model produced? Or are you determined to make it and not bothered about that side of things?

That price range is simply unrealistic. As I've said, equivalent FW models are £60-100.

I'm really hoping I can get this into production.

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Well, obviously number 1 is the more finished option, and the overall design of number 2 (following the outline of the original armor sections) doesn't look that hot. That doesn't mean that having a split carapace is a dead idea.

I think that for a split carapace to work, you'll need to change the 'stepped' nature of the armor (either be using a slope instead of a step, or simply not having a change in elevation at that point), Obviously, though, there are infinite variations that you could try, so the amount of effort that should be put into the exercise isn't clear.

You've come a long way with the leg armor, and that makes a huge difference in making the robot look like a WL. Are there any other design details from the upper carapace from the original models that you'd like to emulate? I think that the earlier models all had ledge-like shrouds over their heads, maybe that would be something to try.

Maybe, before finalizing the carapace design, you should mock up what the robot would look like with an arm-sized weapon system mounted on the shoulder. I know that capability isn't really a design goal, but people will be using them that way so it would be interesting to see what that would look like.

What looks weird with the scout weapons might look better the larger guns (and vice versa). But if you can find a way to make both look good while at the same time not corrupting you design vision, then it will be a win-win.

Well, a lower price may be unrealistic, but £60-100 isn't exactly reasonable for this size of model. At $100-$200 a piece, I can tell you the market for this guy will be exceedingly small.

However, FW charges roughly £40 for a SM dreadnought (after adding in the 2 arm weapons), which is roughly the same mass as this will be. That still isn't exactly reasonable in my book, but it is, at least, realistic.

There may be a premium added for being an epic model, but there shouldn't be if this is going to be the main playing piece in a titan combat game.

A Dreadnought has less mass than this model, and has far less components too. Like a third of the ammount.

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I realise everyone has different budgets and vastly different tastes in terms of favouring old or new models, but I'm genuinely surprised that people aren't interested at least one of these bad boys.

I'm definitely picking up at least one, if not two, and probably some of the alternate weapons as well. It's far superior to any Warlord currently released (IMHO), and is far better than my previous fave, the Lucius from SG.  With all the interchangeable weapons and considerable weight it will be a winner.

Just a thought JL, could you post a pic of the Warlord face on with a life size proxy of a 2 pence piece, Euro and dollar/dime just to give people a better idea of the scale? I think it might help everyone (me included) visualise just how mighty this thing will be.

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I'm aiming at £35 - 50. That is currently $57.50-82.15.

The Dark Angels Venerable Dreadnought (With arms) cost £39.50 and is 36% the current volume of this Robot!

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