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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:40 pm 
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While I only base infantry, and some single model units (like dreadnoughts), I think they all should be based. Some of the examples shown on the forums of based vehicles look just lovely.

So will you in the future?  :cool:

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Nope, the cost alone would bankrupt me....  :;):

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:laugh:

You could cut bases from empty cereal boxes. :;):

It would take time, but it could be done.  :p  

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Hehe. :D

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While I only base infantry, and some single model units (like dreadnoughts), I think they all should be based. Some of the examples shown on the forums of based vehicles look just lovely.

So will you in the future? ?:cool:

dafrca

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Nope, the cost alone would bankrupt me.... ?:;):

Primarch

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You could cut bases from empty cereal boxes. :;):

It would take time, but it could be done. ?:p ?

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That's actually not a bad idea. I used cereal boxes to make army cards for SM2 when new units appeared in White Dwarf. They aren't the greatest quality, but it was nice to cards until GW got around to releasing them in TL.

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We would all need to send him our empty cereal  boxes for a while so he could get enough board. :laugh:

I could see it now, Primarch gets envelopes from around the world with nothing but card stock. :p

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We would all need to send him our empty cereal ?boxes for a while so he could get enough board. :laugh:

You're right!   :D  :p

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I base infantry on standard bases.  Some are on the older 20mm square and some are on the newer 10x40mm rectangles.  I try to keep all of a single army on a single kind of base unless I'm using the base to differentiate the units.  For example, grots look a lot like boyz at arm's length, so I put grots on a different kind of stand for easy recognition.

I base light vehicles, not because I think they need it but because it makes them easier to handle.  In a few cases, I base them because I think it helps the model stay together.  As an example of that, the Ork Skorchas have a single joint holding the trailer to the vehicle so mounting it on a base adds stability and keeps them from breaking apart.

I don't base vehicles, but I have recently been considering basing my Ork Gun/Battlefortresses in order to clearly differentiate them as WEs.

I actually recently removed some bases from my Gargants because I decided I don't like them.  I'm not sure if I'll make replacements or leave them unbased, but I'm leaning towards unbased.

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For basing materials, I have used coins, but I just don't like them for some reason.

I used to use craft sticks (like popsicle sticks or lollipop sticks, depending on which side of the pond you're on).  3/4" wide sticks are just under 20mm.  Tin snips easily clip them to length and a mist coat of primer seals them so superglue will stick for mounting.

I now have a large stock of free polystyrene sheets.  A friend of mine worked in a retail store that used polystyrene dividers in their bins.  When they replaced them, he walked out with something like a 5 foot stack of them, each about 14" square.  They are thin enough to cut with scissors but thick enough that they are rigid with a vehicle mounted on them.  Basically, perfect for basing.  He gave me stack to use and I've not used anything else since.

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If I were to base vehicles, I would start out using FoW bases. I like how they look and how minis look on them.

Just my .02

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I base infantry (mostly on the standard Epic long bases, but I have just ordered a load of the Flames of War small 32mm x 25mm bases) and Light Vehicles (on Warmaster or Flames of War small or medium bases, or circular washers for things like Dreadnoughts and Sentinels). I just dont base vehicles as I dont like the way that it looks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:57 am 
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Quote (Lextar @ 01 2005 July,07:54)
*** Just wondering what people think about mixing circle and square bases within one army? ***

I did this with my Eldar Fire Dragon Troupe. Originally all the vehicles were going to be on circle bases, but I switched the wave serpents to square base so they stood next to each other on the shelf without wasting any space. So the only one left is the command Falcon.

I'm thinking of doing something similiar with my Tau. Troops on Square bases and the tans on circle ones.

*** What do people think? ***


Hi Lextar,

I don't have a problem mixing base types or sizes.

In fact, I have done this many times. I use the following with regularity for older Epic editions or  the current E-A:

SQUARE [20mmx20mm or roughly 3/4"x3/4"]:
- I still use the 20mmx20mm 1rst and 2nd edition sqaure bases although I prefer the 3rd edition rectangular ones.
- Metal shims that can be glued under these bases to make them magnetic are readily availible.

RECTANGLE [12.5mmx40mm]:
- I love the 3rd edition 12.5mmx40mm rectangular bases.
- The only bad thing about them is that they are such a funky size. Noone makes a metal base you can glue under the E-40k rectangle so I have to custom make them so that my infantry stands can be stored magnetically. This is a pain.
- I'm thinking of switching to 15mmx40mm bases since this is a standard DBA base size and is readily availible.

RECTANGLE [20mmx30mm]:
- I have custom-made and cut these pieces for smaller artillery pieces such as Thud guns and the like when the 20mmx20mm was too small and the 20mmx40mm was too big.
- Cutting plasticard is easy but time consuming.

RECTANGLE [20mmx40mm]:
- The Warmaster 20mmx40mm bases are wonderful. Metal shims that can be glued under these bases to make them magnetic are readily availible.
- 20mmx40mm bases are also a standard DBA base size and are readily availible.

CIRCLE [3/4" (Roughly 20mm) and 1" (Roughly 25mm)]:
- This is the newest kind of base I have been using and I really like using circles.
- I use two sizes primarily: 3/4" (Roughly 20mm) and 1" (Roughly 25mm).
- I purchase fender washers in this size and cover up the middle hole with a piece of Scotch tape or small paper.
- 3/4" fender washers make great pieces for individual pieces such as robots or jet bikes and also are fabulous for character pieces such as leaders or even for individual units such as snipers or missile teams.
- 1" circles are good for regular infantry units and are a great size on which to base E-A Tyranids.

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Hi Everyone,

I've discovered that I don't care for basing vehicles either.

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However, I like the storage advantages of having based vehicles so I've compromised:

- I attach a steel plate under vehicles now to store them magnetically.

- Some vehicles like plastic Land Raiders have very little base to glue the metal plate to so I glue two plastic pieces underneath and then glue the metal plate down.

- Metal vehicle miniatures also greatly benefit from this mounting system.

- An additional advantage is that I can always fit a vehicle's steel base to a larger magnetic base if I ever change my mind and decide I want vehicle bases.

- Plastic Land Raiders and Rhinos store much more securely then.

- Land Raiders require a 5/8" x 5/8" (Roughly 15mm x 15mm) base underneath them.

- Rhinos, Predators, Whirlwinds and related vehicles take a 1/2" x 1/2" base underneath them.

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I also stopped glueing down turrets and now mount a magnet under turret attachment points and glue a small round cut-out of steel paper (Or a small magnet... ) under turrets.

- This makes all of my turrets interchangeable.

- It's also very inexpensive.

- Using rare-earth magnets makes the turrets attach very securely for those worried about lisng turrets.

- The other cool thing about this method is that turrets can be turned for photo shoots.

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I like the Flames of War (FOW) bases, but they tend to be a bit large for vehicles in my opinion.

FOW bases come in three sizes:

SMALL:
- 1&1/4" x 1" (32mm x 25mm)

MEDIUM:
- 1&1/4" x 2" (32mm x 50mm)

LARGE:
- 2" x 2&1/2" (50mm x 65mm)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:26 am 
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I never did base my vehicles, but then always had problems where the metal ones kept getting chipped on the table.

I recently based my Chaos Command Rhinos because they looked better and stand neatly together with my Chaos Champions on my shelf. I also plan to make a base for the whole chaos chapter, so don't have too much of a magic carpet effect as described above.

I also think basing vehicles look nice when they stand neatly next to the infantry. Like my Fire Dragon Troupe... with the exception of the command falcon :(


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