So far I've noticed two factors that seem to contribute greatly to your score. The first is the photo itself, if you hit nice dynamic lighting and good composition, you get higher ratings. the second is your initial rating. Whatever you give yourself it will set the default score to one point lower which can offset quite a bit of the extremely low votes your are bound to get from people who vote like you painted a 28mm figure.

Additionally, it seems that more freehand is considered "better painting" while even a clean, blended highlight model with a decent base rates only around table top quality. (I consider TT quality to be more along the lines of flat color with little or no shading)

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It got the "mini of the week" award back in the day.  Sadly, I used a bad camera, and I could never figure out how to post several views of the mini into one picture.  Do you have to photoshop several photos into one file, and then upload that?

Definately, NMM and freehand seem to score the highest.

Some nice work up there guys,
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Well I finally created an account but the stupid program will not let me upload any photos.
I can't see that I'm doing anything wrong (I've uploaded hundreds of photos before so I don't need a lesson in how to do it) so I assume the site is having an issue.

Do you need credits just to upload a photo (not for an auction or anything fancy)? If so, I'll be giving C-Mon a miss.
I don't have any other accounts to link photos to, so I want to upload them to C-Mon.

This kind of thing is usually against my better judgment. I'm really not into having my hobby stuff rated by others but I'm happy to boost the image of Epic any way I can.

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No credits needed. The site does seem  a bit sluggish to load sometimes, but as long as you're logged in and got all the info boxes filled out I'm not really sure what could be the problem.

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Thanks for the responce WMN.
It seems to be working now (maybe it was an account activation thing).

I'll get some photos uploaded as soon as possible.

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Absolutely true. Freehand nets you higher marks usually, and NMM more so, even if the result is horrible. Imho well used metallics look superior to NMM, like Jakob Neilson's mini's..

In addition, painters towards the higher end of the spectrum have deliberately voted their competitors lower than they deserved in the past. Great painters, if they are also active on various forums, also seem to gain a fan club, and these guys can also exacerbate the situation. I saw two guys post low scores (including a 0) on an ex-heavy metal painters model once (not sure why).

Its one of the reasons why I haven't really gone for CMON yet, it seems abit elitist - there are plenty of models on there which are easilly up to table top standard, but only get 3-4, and some which deserve far higher than a 6. Some models, because of the artists name, get higher (8 or 9) than they might have done if they were by someone else..

But this is all ones guys opinion...

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I agree completely with you evil homer. Just the fact someone attempted something freehand seems to boost the score even if the freehand doesn't have a place on the model. I think NMM has it's place stylistically, but too many people discount anything BUT the going style of the day as good.

Also even an alright paint job on a nicely converted model nets higher scores, and to some degree even unpainted heavy GS models like Scibors net high scores when there's no paint applied to the model at all.

Perhaps we should attempt to counterbalance the system by voting higher on our epic models to counterbalance the low scores from the 28mm crowd and you took an awesome photo crowd. Also when posting your models, rate yourself at a 9 so it at least starts the run at 8.

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NMM and glow effects are somewhat overrated in my book. It leans itself towards photography instead of actual use as a three dimensional model. Well done NMM still only look cool when viewed from certain angles. Trouble is that more often than not NMM isn't well done and just looks messy and flat. The problem arises when miniature painters begin to adopt techniques intended for two dimensional painting (although arguably regular shading and highlighting falls into that category too). There's a certain breed of miniature painters out there who see themselves as second only to Raphael or Rembrandt. They forget that the model is a threedimensional object that will catch light from many different angles during use or while on display. Correctly done NMM is supposed to be viewed from one intended angle with one intended light source. Sure it is technically challenging to make and can look really good when photographed, but it is not necessarily what makes a good looking model in real life.

Personaly I've always found painting a necessary evil. Converting and building is usually the fun part, but it'd sort of be a waste if you didn't put a bit of effort into the painting bit. And of course having a nicely painted army on the table is quite rewarding afterwards. I like to share my pics hoping that it might give people a few ideas just as I get inspired by viewing other people's work. Positive feedback is of course nice, but I'm not really too concerned with feedback, be it positive or negative, as I really just do what I like anyway. If people like it then that's fine. If they don't, well I paid for the stuff so as long as I' happy with it...  

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Yeps; you need to stitch multiple photos together yourself in photoshop (or similar) first.

Your Fire Prism is very cool!    I'd have been tempted to tweak the photo to being a bit brighter myself though, seem a little dark now.

Been through and voted for everyone's recent adds now (did a search for "epic").

I occasionally vote a point or so higher than I really think if voting had unfairly panned something, but I wouldn't vote anything a top mark if it didn't deserve it. What could help a little to counter-act the unfamiliar 28mm crowd voting low is if we comment one each others photos leaving higher, but still sensible scores - people might have a quick look at any comments a model has before voting.

And congrats to Warmaster Nice's War-Zeppelin for well-deservedly knocking me off the highest ranking epic model  

Thanks Glyn    Well I'm a bit surprised it got that high rankings. The paint job itself certeinly isn't worth that much, but I guess the originality of the concept has scored a few points as well.

Oh and I agree: A few comments is always a good idea. Epic isn't harder or easier to convert or paint than anything else, but it is different and poses some different challenges but also possibilities. A number score doesn't really reflect that, so let's definitely comment on Epic stuff we feel is a bit undertipped.

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A great attitude WMN and I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Cheers,
Steve.

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Alright, finally got this thing sorted out.
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I'll be adding more soon.

Cheers,
Steve.

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