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Epic Armageddon Handbook - Alpha
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:12 pm 
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(nealhunt @ Aug. 22 2007,13:21)
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Mark:  I noticed that the SM drop pod refers to the wrong rule (4.4.1, which is Free Planetfall) and the drop pod rule doesn't seem to be present at all.  I assume you intended to move it to 4.4 somewhere?

I would also suggest killing the datafax altogether, as it causes no end of confusion.

Ah yes that will be left over from the previous version... which was some old stuff from SG site. Will fix it up next update.

Drop the datafax? Yeah I guess so...

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(Chroma @ Aug. 22 2007,12:26)
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PS: if stats of the spirit seer (Ulthwen) anywhere in that handbook?

The Spirit Seer is an Iyanden unit, not Ulthw?; they have a Seer Council, not sure if that is in the doc though.

It is section 5.9.1 (Ulthwe units).

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With the proposed changes to the Intercept and AA rules I don't see the point in paying extra for Flakwagons when I can use FBs.

SF - the basic Warband is not broken its when you increase the size of formation when potential problems occur.

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All the ork changes are still up for discussion as far as I'm concerned.

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(Tiny-Tim @ Aug. 22 2007,15:01)
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With the proposed changes to the Intercept and AA rules I don't see the point in paying extra for Flakwagons when I can use FBs.

Who ever used FB's for intercept before when they were so necessary for taking out enemy artillery?  :p

Personally I think this is just a much needed correction, and Fighta Bombas have a limit on availability in any case.

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I'd like to suggest -10pts per Attack Bike for the Marine list.

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and Fighta Bombas have a limit on availability in any case.

Playing against 20 of them in a 3000pt game is not nice

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(Tiny-Tim @ Aug. 23 2007,09:43)
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(Markconz @ Aug. 22 2007,22:51)
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and Fighta Bombas have a limit on availability in any case.

Playing against 20 of them in a 3000pt game is not nice

But players can do that already; that has nothing to do with flakwagonz, I'm afraid.

You can still get as many flakwagonz as you want, you just don't get them at a discount.

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...proofreading...

pag. 46
Deth Kopta, Skorcha and Warbuggies/Wartracks have the same stats of Warbikes (previous page), should be:

Deth Kopta AR4+ CC6+ FF5+
Skorcha AR5+ CC6+ FF4+
Warbuggie/Wartrack AR5+ CC5+ FF5+

pag. 50
Shouldn't the Avatar have FF4+ (not 3+ as written)?

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Markconz
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Thanks Drugo, great stuff, will have that fixed for next version.

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They are more restricted on basis that now you need to buy 4 units before getting flaks. Before you didn't.

Well, I always did that... I *like* Gunwagonz... *laugh*

Just gotta pay a few more points now to add one or two to the Brigade.  

The whole "Flakwagon Rush" wasn't very Orky.

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...more proofreading...

(note that some of the following errors may be unhearded changes from my side...  :p )

pag.41
- IG Stormtroopers have CC5+ (not 6+)
- IG Snipers have FF5+ (not 4+)

pag.45
- Ork Kommandos have FF5+ (not 6+)

pag.46
- Ork Dreadnought's Big Shootas are AP6+/AT6+ (not AP5+/AT6+)

pag.47
- Ork Gunfortresses have 1 more Big Shootas (5 instead of 4)

pag.48
- Feral Ork Madboys have CC4+ FF6+ (not CC5+ FF5+)
- Feral Ork Steam Gargants have CC4+ FF4+ (not CC3+ FF3+)

pag.51
- Eldar Wraithlords have AR4+ (not AR5+)

pag.52
- Eldar Phantoms and Warlocks have Twin Eldar Missile Launchers with AP4+/AT5+/AA5+ (not Eldar Missile Launchers AP5+/AT6+/AA6+)

pag.55
- Champions of Chaos should not have MW on their FF or CC attacks

pag.56
- Swiftdeath Fighters' Storm Bolters should be changed to Combi-Bolters

pag.57
- The Keeper of Secrets lack MW on both his Gaze of Slaanesh Small Arms attack and his Lash of Torment CC attack

pag.59
- LatD Chaos Altar has 15cm movement (not 30cm)
- Khorne Assault Engines' Demon blades/spikes give them +d3 attacks (not +3)
- Nurgle Plague tower lacks Disrupt on its Plague Mortar and Ignore Cover on its Rot Cannon

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Markconz
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Wow that's a lot  :blush: Thanks Drugo, will double check all those.  I copied a lot of it from another quick ref someone had made, so might have been mistakes in that too.

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The whole "Flakwagon Rush" wasn't very Orky.

It wazna da Rush it waz da lotz n lotz of dice u gitz to roll ?:;):

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