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Author: | Lord Aaron [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:27 am ] |
Post subject: | question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields ? |
question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields ? yay/nay? o and necrons - can or cant use broken formations that have unused portals? |
Author: | zombocom [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:30 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Crossfire reduces holofields Broken portals can be used. |
Author: | Lord Aaron [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:38 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
3min's? ooo your good. well how about these... if you lose a unit to difficult terrain after which you cant make it to engagement range, what happens? and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?) can the 1 unit give supporting fire to two different engagements? can space craft shoot all there weapons (assuming it has 2 or more) and can they be at different targets? can units on over watch fire indirect? do you roll critical for war engine difficult terrain checks? (assuming they take a damage point?) |
Author: | Jaggedtoothgrin [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
if you lose a unit to difficult terrain after which you cant make it to engagement range, what happens? I'd assume "they make the move, and then nothing else happens" and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?) No, and Yes. can the 1 unit give supporting fire to two different engagements? Yes can space craft shoot all there weapons (assuming it has 2 or more) and can they be at different targets? Yes and Yes can units on over watch fire indirect? No do you roll critical for war engine difficult terrain checks? (assuming they take a damage point?) Yes |
Author: | Angel_of_Caliban [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:13 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
zombocom wrote: Crossfire reduces holofields That's lame donkey poo sauce.....Kinda odd |
Author: | Athmospheric [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
I think it makes sense. It is actually harder to hide or fake your position when you're shot at from two direction. That's the whole idea of triangulation. |
Author: | zombocom [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:03 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Sniper also reduces holofields, if you can find any AT weapon with sniper of course. |
Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:16 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
zombocom wrote: Sniper also reduces holofields, if you can find any AT weapon with sniper of course. EUK Destroyer Tank Hunters. I think that's it. |
Author: | nealhunt [ Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:22 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Jaggedtoothgrin got all the answers right, but just to expand on one of them... Lord Aaron wrote: and dose teleporting set off over watch? and what about engaging in a air assault? (set it off?) Overwatch requires an "on the ground" move. Landing aircraft and planetfall do not trigger OW because they do not move the minis "on the ground." Planetfall literally now no move on the board and landing aircraft do so with an aircraft approach move, not an "on the ground" move, only changing to a ground unit at the end of the move. However, troops dismounting is "on the ground" and triggers OW as normal. So, aircraft can land/fire without triggering OW, and could even perform an air assault without triggering OW, as long as no troops dismounted. |
Author: | semajnollissor [ Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | twitching |
there is now a worm in my brain... < does > |
Author: | Lsrwolf [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:43 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Does being assaulted/engaged remove overwatch status? What does it cost an aircraft to jink AFTER it has run its mission? It looks like nothing, no disadvantage, just a free 4+ for everything. Does jinking at least remove the aircraft's ability to provide AA cover from that point on? |
Author: | Mephiston [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Lsrwolf wrote: Does being assaulted/engaged remove overwatch status? No, the assaulted formation would keep overwatch unless it was broken after the assault is resolved. Lsrwolf wrote: What does it cost an aircraft to jink AFTER it has run its mission? It looks like nothing, no disadvantage, just a free 4+ for everything. Does jinking at least remove the aircraft's ability to provide AA cover from that point on? [/quote] There is no penalty to an AC jinking after carrying out its ground attack. I see no reason why it would lose its AA by doing so either. |
Author: | Lsrwolf [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:21 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Because the jinking rules say that after jinking you cannot shoot. AA is still considered shooting, right? Forcing an AC that is on CAP to jink as a result of an Intercept attack removes its ability to effectively CAP as well. |
Author: | Evil and Chaos [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:24 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Quote: AA is still considered shooting, right? I would assume so. |
Author: | Mephiston [ Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:37 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: question - dose cross fire lower eldar titan holo fields |
Ok here is the text for jink Quote: Fighters and fighter-bombers can choose to ‘jink’ when they have to make a saving throw. Jinking represents the pilot desperately swerving his plane to one side in order to try and dodge the enemy attack. All of the aircraft in a formation must jink, or none at all. Aircraft that jink receive a 4+ saving throw instead of their normal armour save but lose their attack if they have not already taken it (they are concentrating on dodging enemy bullets). Place a suitable marker on the aircraft as a reminder it can’t shoot. So they do indeed lose their attack. Then we look at Flak Attacks and it says Quote: AA weapons are designed to fire defensively against an attacking enemy aircraft, and may therefore shoot immediately after an enemy aircraft formation makes an approach move but before it makes its attack. This is called a flak attack. Note that aircraft carrying out a ground attack mission that are armed with AA weapons may shoot at enemy interceptors that fall within the AA weapon’s fire arc. Making a flak attack does not remove overwatch status from a ground formation. Flak attacks may not be carried out by units belonging to a formation that is marching or broken. This aside, flak attacks are a ‘free’ or bonus attack, and making a flak attack does not stop the unit attacking again later in the same turn. What’s more, a flak weapon can make any number of flak attacks per turn against different aircraft formations, as long as it does not attack the same aircraft formation more than once in a turn. So the question is can a free/bonus attack ever be removed. Ground flak can be suppressed by BM's but as they don't effect AC in the same manner I'd rule that even if you jink, you still get to flak AC that end their movement in range and arc. You can't Intercept a formation on CAP until after it has taken its activation, as although it is placed on your table edge it hasn't entered play, merely indicated where it shall enter play when activated. |
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