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Raising fan lists to Net:EA experimental status.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:00 am 
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Well, how should it be done, and which lists should be considered first (Presumably the SG experimental ones)?

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:04 am 
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I'd be picking Chaos lists, some of the marine chapter lists, some of eldar lists.

Yeah ones in the vault.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:39 pm 
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Which Chaos list???

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:45 pm 
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(Soren @ Dec. 29 2007,10:39)
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Which Chaos list???

Like Emperor's Children, Death Guard etc...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:52 pm 
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You really think they are balanced. I?m just curious. I read 2 battle reports of EC here on the board. And as much as I can say there is no real conclusion on hellblades or Hell Talons or massed fearless units? Am I right?

Without wanting to offend anyone but are you sure of making a list official with near to zero testing? (Has anybody read a Deathguard report?)

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:55 pm 
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(Soren @ Dec. 29 2007,10:52)
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You really think they are balanced. I?m just curious. I read 2 battle reports of EC here on the board. And as much as I can say there is no real conclusion on hellblades or Hell Talons or massed fearless units? Am I right?

Without wanting to offend anyone but are you sure of making a list official with near to zero testing? (Has anybody read a Deathguard report?)

I have serious concerns same as you about all the massed fearless units. Also I'd like to see the aircraft issue and other chaos issues sorted.

So no to shifting them to official status (whatever that means), without more testing. I'd like to see them concentrated on with that as a goal though.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:46 pm 
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The only way to do it is through massive playtesting against official lists. The batreps should be then discussed here at TacWar.

When the previously appointed army champion (not the list creator) thinks it is balanced enough it should be submitted to the ERC for review.

We should start with the lists in the SG vault (or their updated versions), I am not sure which though.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:49 pm 
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I'd be more interested in seeing more lists raised to "Official Experimental" status and stored in the Vault, to get a wider exposure as it seems more people visit the SG site than TacCom, even if they aren't posting.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:22 pm 
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(Hena @ Dec. 29 2007,18:19)
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1. Blood Angels (I think this is ready, just Death Company transport options needs to be tuned)

I think the wording for the Death Company in the army list/units needs to be reworded:  The formation name is "Death Company" and the unit name is "Death Company"... this has caused some confusion around here.

Secondly, I think the Death Company should be a 0-1 choice, not a fixed "1" choice... it's not at *every* battle, and it also lets the list represent other "fast and armoured" doctrine Chapters.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:33 pm 
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(Soren @ Dec. 29 2007,13:52)
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You really think they are balanced. I?m just curious. I read 2 battle reports of EC here on the board. And as much as I can say there is no real conclusion on hellblades or Hell Talons or massed fearless units?

The Hell Blades and Talons are completely different from EC and are proposed changes to all Chaos lists...  so no need to bundle them :]
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:09 pm 
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The Emperor's Children seem to be doing pretty well, not sure there's much there that's broken - there've been a steady (if very slow) stream of batreps for them - not least rpr's recent splash of games. It needs some work, though.

Death Guard are certainly not balanced, and I'm not sure I won't dismantle the list fairly drastically.

However, I did assume that by "fan" lists the title meant those lists that aren't even in the vault for one reason or another - and there are a number floating around. Presumably, the lists in the vault are going to be considered for official status de facto.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:20 am 
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I would be glad to see the Slamanders armylist from The_Real_Chris and me in the vault :)

Making it official is another matter.

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