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Consolidating Blood Rage and Red Thirst

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:31 am 
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I really think the two should be combined into one rule.

That'd be easy enough to write, and I'm happy to test a combined rule with the Blood Angels (Granting both the drawback and the benefit to the whole army) if there are no objections.

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 Post subject: Re: Consolidating Blood Rage and Red Thirst
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:08 pm 
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Care to provide the one rule with a name? :)

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 1:11 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Consolidating Blood Rage and Red Thirst
PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:42 pm 
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Dude - the rule applies when you can reach B2B with a charge move.

Maybe I'm missing something incredibly obvious, but I see no way that having half of the units that could reach B2B actually do so is that difficult. It's not half the units in the formation or anything - it's half the units that could reach base to base.

There needs to be something in the rule that actually results in problems if you don't at least try for base to base.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:45 pm 
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Simulated Knave, you're not explaining what you mean correctly, and Frogbear is not understanding what you mean correctly.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 10:53 pm 
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It's not half the units in the formation or anything - it's half the units that could reach base to base.


Oh. Ok that makes more sense. Things look a little clearer now :P

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:13 am 
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Is there another possibility for Aggressive at all? Every army in the world has "aggressive" troops...


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 Post subject: Re: Consolidating Blood Rage and Red Thirst
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:25 am 
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The latest plan is to combine the two, Dobbsy.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:35 am 
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If that is so - it brings it back to the original Blood Rage rule and we go again full circle?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:36 am 
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You agreed to it earlier on this very page!

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Yes, and like everything, I complete things (like the World Eater list) and hand it in to find that changes are needed again :)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:48 am 
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I just meant the name not the rule.


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 Post subject: Re: Consolidating Blood Rage and Red Thirst
PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:27 pm 
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I'd go for "Aggressive" as a name, as it's generic enough to be applied widely.

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Evil and Chaos wrote:
I'd go for "Aggressive" as a name, as it's generic enough to be applied widely.


Hopefully it is not an invitation to be used 'willy-nilly' however.

I would only like to see it used on units/formations that have been touched in some way by Khorne such as:

- Established Khornate Assault Troops and Daemon Engines
- Blood Angels
- Squat Berserkers

I do not think it should be used for any and all angry close assault troops because then it would just be a "me too" rule.

If they do not suffer from a type of 'Red Rage' then they should not have the rule. In general, Marines (other than Blood Angels who have the fluff for it) should not have this rule.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:34 pm 
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In general, Marines (other than Blood Angels who have the fluff for it) should not have this rule.

No, but likewise the rule shouldn't identify too closely with "blood" just because these two armies like the red stuff lots. Walker, for example, was a badly named rule...

...plus, aggressive is a single word, which fits nicely into unit notes.

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