Top effort fredmans. Great work!

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This should have been corrected before the draft was released.

This doesn't appear on the PDF. Not sure about it. Might be an issue that Apoc was mentioning.


Yep that's a GW issue.


I'm not sure what the coloured line breaks are all about but I don't see them when I print my document....

Thanks Fredmans!


That's on Dave/ERC now

i just noticed that the black legion list says chaos navy have a 1+ initiative. this isnt correct is it? i thought planes had to be 2+? (if 1+ is the correct initiative, can we please put the aircraft in my list back at 1+ aswell?)

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RED CORSAIRS:
First: Red Corsairs DON'T use the Faction rule!
Second: As will all Chaos armylists nowhere is stated that one Chaos Space Marine Lord has to be the Warlord! And that Chaos Space Marine Lords are either Chaos Lords or Sorcerers.
Terminator Retinue Upgrades should also exclude Chaos Rhinos for obvious reasons.
It says says "Black Legion Armoured Company" instead of "Armoured Company.
"Chosen" formation talks about "Chaos Space Marine Chosen" units with Scout ability. There is no such unit. The formation consists of Chaos Space Marine units with the Scout ability.
Chaos Drop Pod upgrade talks about "Chaos Cruiser". Should be "Chaos Strike Cruiser".
Deamon Prince upgrade talks about "You may have only 1 Daemon Prince per faction taken". Should be "Only one Daemon Prince may be included in the army" as the Red Corsairs don't use the faction rule.
Daemon Engine Upgrade: Delete the "+75 points each" in the first row as it is a duplicate of the following line.
Harbigner Bomber: Is theprice intentionally driopped to 425pts? I have it at 450pts.
Chaos Warhound: Should be 300pts not 800pts.

Unit stats:
Chaos Space Marine Lord is missing the
Warp Bolt (15cm) Small Arms, MW +1A
as well as:
Chaos Lord = Daemon Weapon
Sorcerer Lord = Warp Bolt
Warlord = Supreme Commander, Daemon Weapon

Daemon Prince: Should have MW +1EA on the Small Arms attack.

Obliterators: Should be Fearless

Desecrator: FF should be 4+ and loose Infiltrator.
Discrepancies between the Desecrators Havoc Launcher (AP4+) and Hell Talons Havoc Launcher (AP5+/AT6+). If Hell Talons stats are correct please replace the Desecrators stats.

And somewhere there should be stated the exact Critical Hit results of the War Engines. For the Chaos Titans it's the same as their imperial counterparts. For the Brass Scorpion it's the same as the Baneblade but units in 5cm are hit on a 4+ instead of a 6+.

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Eldars :
Revenant Pulsar : MW3+ or MW4+ ?

For the Harakoni Warhawks:
Company Upgrade prices are messed up. It should be:


Support Sentinels are lacking their Armour, CC, and FF. They should be: 6+ / 6+ / 5+, as regular Sentinels.
Lightnings should be the agreed-upon stats, as seen in the Elysian section of the compendium.

The updated 1.4.2 version doesn't have Self-Planetfall anymore, but if you don't want to update the entirety, there are some skimmers that need Self Planetfall in their entry.

OK. First list for me off the ranks:

Imperial Fists

- Assault Units should be priced at 150 points (not 175). This is due to their limited support and air options (they are not 'front-loaded' for the Thunderhawk).
- Terminators - remove 'Supreme Commander' upgrade
- Land Raiders - remove 'Supreme Commander' upgrade
- Transport upgrade is missing the OR as currently it seems you can take both Rhinos and Crusaders as part of the one upgrade which is incorrect
- Dreadnought (Hellfire) stats should not have 'OR' listed with its weapons. It has both Hellfire and Twin Lascannons
- Land Raider Achilles transport states can carry 1 Terminator stand when it should also include Tactical and Devastators for the sake of completion (matters not to the list itself however)
- Land Raider Crusader has a Twin Assault Cannon which I believe should be AP4+/AT4+.
- Land Raider Crusader has a pair of hurricane bolters which I believe should be Small Arms EA +1
- Predator Destructor should have a FF 3+
- 'Imperial Fists Razorback' should simply be listed as 'Razorback' as it is not different from the base Razorback
- Imperial Fists Razorback should have the 'OR' underlined to remain standard as other areas of the stat sheet
- 'Imperial Fists Rhino' should simply be listed as 'Rhino' as it is not different from the base Rhino
- Marauder Heavy Bomber - please clarrify that Heavy Bomber Armour is now 4+ as listed and not 5+

- Firebase stats are incorrect. They should be as follows:
--> Infantry: 3+ Cover Save
--> Vehicles: Dangerous (as have to account for Dreadnoughts and LV units)
--> War Engines: Impassable

- Firebase capacity states vehicles when it should state AV as I made the distiction to allow for LV units on a 1:1 basis.

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As I have just been given the Death Guard List, and after all the exhaustible work that no less than 4 ACs have spent reviewing and clarifying, I have given this one a cursory once over for the compendium. Hena placed a lot of work into it so there is nothing much that stands out other than the below. 2012 will see the list reviewed, however apart from the below changes, it should be right for the compendium:


Death Guard

- Under Death Guard Heading of 'Death Guard Core Formations), please remove the note about Infantry support as this is repeated in the next heading
- Under Death Guard Vehicle Support Formations and the Cost Column, please remove the word 'each' from Defiler Assault Pack.
- Under Titan and Chaos Navy, Battleship should state to upgrade the Despoiler class Cruiser +100 points as it may be confusing to new players who may consider purchasing 2 spaceships
- Under Daemon Pool please change "Any number of Greater Daemon" to read "One Greater Daemon" as you cannot play multiples of the same G.Daemon

- Devastation Class Cruiser should only have 1x Pin Point Attack (currently listed with 3x Pin Point Attacks)

- Hell Talon Havoc Launcher: Please clarify with Steve54 whether this should be AP4+/AT6+ and not AP5+/AT6+ as listed

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I am just being pedantic on this one :

Black Legion

- Chaos Navy should be 2+ Initiative

- Devastation Class Cruiser should only have 1x Pin Point Attack (currently listed with 2x Pin Point Attacks)

- Hell Talon Havoc Launcher: Please clarify with Steve54 whether this should be AP4+/AT6+ and not AP5+/AT6+ as listed

- Banelord Titan should be priced at 800 points. Please clarify with Steve54 as from past discussions I believe this was reduced to allow for a squad of Hellblades in a 3000 point list. Note this will have a flow-on effect to many other Chaos lists.

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OK. Another one done. This one needs a bit of work on the revision so I am hoping we do not miss anything on this one:

Emperor's Children

- It would assist if all Upgrades were listed alphabetically rather than as they are next to all formations
- Terminator Retinue - Please add 'Transports' to their Upgrades
- Dreadclaws in Upgrades should state "Allows the formation to deploy via Dreadclaws" and NOT replace transports as it currently does
- Favoured of Slaanesh Upgrade should state "....OR replace one Decadent Lord or Siren Lord unit in the army with a Slaanesh Daemon Prince unit". Currently the Siren Lord is missing from this text
- Under Transport upgrade, to ensure that there is no confusion over the addition of the Transport Upgrade for Terminators please include the following after '3x Rhinos' - Noise Marine and Decadent Marine Retinues only.
- Under Daemon Pool please change "Any number of Greater Daemon" to read "One Greater Daemon" as you cannot play multiples of the same G.Daemon

- Slaanesh Daemon Prince stats are missing. These should be
--> Armour: 3+
--> CC: 3+
--> FF: 3+

- Emperor's Children Dreadnought is missing the '+' next to it's Armour of 3

- Defiler stats are missing entirely from the stats area. Please copy in Stats for the Defiler from the Black Legion list to appear after the Debaser stats

- Subjugator Titan should have 2x Battlecannons. Current stats in sheet only has 1 listed. Steve54 may have to make a decision here as it also effects the same unit in the Stigmatus list.

- Devastation Class Cruiser should only have 1x Pin Point Attack (currently listed with 2x Pin Point Attacks)

- Hell Talon Havoc Launcher: Please clarify with Steve54 whether this should be AP4+/AT6+ and not AP5+/AT6+ as listed

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World Eaters - part one of three

There appears to have been a mix up in the special Rules between the Blood Angels and the World Eaters. Until we gain some clarity and agreement on this in 2012, please (for the sake of a completeness to the compendium for this year) replace the Special Rules for

- Blood Rage of Khorne
- Aggressive
- Bloodthirsty

...with the following ONE special Rule:

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Blood Rage of Khorne

All units within the World Eaters Army list (not Chaos Navy)
are effected by the Blood Rage of Khorne

If a formation effected by the Blood Rage of Khorne has at least
one unit that can potentially reach base contact with an enemy,
they may perform an Engage action with a +1 modifier to the
initiative roll.

If a formation effected by the Blood Rage of Khorne has at least
one unit that can potentially reach base contact with an enemy
decides to perform any other action other than an Engage, they will
receive a -1 modifier to their initiative roll.

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World Eaters - part two of three

- World Eaters Possessed Retinue is missing the 'Favoured of Khorne' Upgrade

- Dreadclaws: replace pricing of +5 points per unit with the following;
--> World Eater Chosen Retinue: +50 points
--> World Eater Berserker Retinue: +75 points

- Under Daemon Pool please change "Any number of Greater Daemon" to read "One Greater Daemon" as you cannot play multiples of the same G.Daemon

- Banelord Titan should be priced at 800 points
- Banelord Titan needs a note added: (May purchase Leader ability +25 points)

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I think this is the last of it for the lists that I am responsible for:

World Eaters - part three of three

- World Eaters Land Raiders needs to include the Khorne Daemon Prince and World Eaters Terminators under the Transport notes.
- World Eaters Rhino needs to include the Khorne Daemon Prince under the Transport notes.

- Blood Slaughterer is missing its weapons. These should be:
--> Cleavers Base Contact MW, Extra attack (+2)

- Bloodthirster Summoning points should be 7 for this list.

- Greater Brass Scorpion is missing the following Critical:
The Brass Scorpion’s reactor explodes. The Brass Scorpion is destroyed and any units within 5cm of the model suffer a hit on a D6 roll of 4+.


- Lord of Battles: Please clarify with Steve54 whether this unit should retain the Invulnerable Save. This effects both the World Eaters and Stigmatus lists.
- Lord of Battle Critical is repeating itself at the end. Please remove the last sentence.

- Banelord Titan needs to be renamed as the "World Eaters Banelord Titan" as it can take an upgrade

- Hell Talon Havoc Launcher: Please clarify with Steve54 whether this should be AP4+/AT6+ and not AP5+/AT6+ as listed

- Devastation Class Cruiser should only have 1x Pin Point Attack (currently listed with 2x Pin Point Attacks)

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The Predator/Armoured Support relationship in the Apocrypha is incorrect. It's supposed to be a base cost of 225, with upgrading to Predators at 10 each.

If more consistency with the main list is preferred (or if non-25s are being frowned upon), then I think the best thing to do would be just switch it to the same as the main list and just have the Armoured Support option add Vindicators or Predators for 50 pts each.

Also, the Assaults in the Demi-Company upgrade are (I believe) 25 points more expensive than in the one I sent in. I'm not opposed to it as an executive decision, but I am opposed to it as a typo.

This looks amazing, BTW. Well done.

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